2015-01 Proposal Accepted and Implemented (Alignment of Transfer Requirements for IPv4 Allocations)
Hello, I do not see that the political right have retroactive effect, is not very democratic change the rules of what was received with other policies, but if I see the correct application of this policy to allocations received after this announcement, how do you see? Best Regards David IPTV EUROPE LTD.
Hi, On Sat, Jul 25, 2015 at 05:14:51PM +0100, ripe@europeiptv.net wrote:
Hello, I do not see that the political right have retroactive effect, is not very democratic change the rules of what was received with other policies, but if I see the correct application of this policy to allocations received after this announcement, how do you see?
This policy applies to all *transfers* from the moment the policy comes into effect - as it guidelines transfers. It's like putting up a speed limit somewhere - it will impact what you can do with your car at this particular place, but unless you are driving that road, nothing changes for car owners. Same here: unless you intend to short-transfer a last-/8 allocation, nothing changes for you. (Funny that people didn't complain when we changed the IPv6 allocation policy to permit /35 holders to extend their existing allocation to a /32 "just by asking for it" - *that* was a retroactive change of policy...) Gert Doering -- APWG chair -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279
* Gert Doering
(Funny that people didn't complain when we changed the IPv6 allocation policy to permit /35 holders to extend their existing allocation to a /32 "just by asking for it" - *that* was a retroactive change of policy...)
Indeed. Or when we allowed transfers in the first place. Or when we allowed LIRs to make end-user assignments without filling in forms. Or when we further extended the /32 to /29 to accomodate for 6RD. Or when we allowed people to register any number of end-user assignments as a single AGGREGATED-BY-LIR object. Or... Tore
On 25/07/2015 17:14, ripe@europeiptv.net wrote:
Hello, I do not see that the political right have retroactive effect, is not very democratic change the rules of what was received with other policies, but if I see the correct application of this policy to allocations received after this announcement, how do you see?
if you are going to make this argument, you will also need to accept that IPv4 transfers are not applicable to ipv4 allocations made before 2009 because the ipv4 transfer policy (2007-08) was only implemented in 2009. Nick
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Gert Doering
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Nick Hilliard
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ripe@europeiptv.net
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Tore Anderson