On Thu, 9 Jul 2020, 18:36 , <info@fos-vpn.org> wrote:
Those "Escalation Listings" cause big problems and there is no independent board of arbitration which could bring a solution in such cases.
You already admitted you're providing services to users that don't obey your ToS, and who are involved in abuse of internet resources. Additionally you refuse to act on the abuse. Those escalation listings target your service providers, as you're involved in providing service to facilitate internet abuse. They are in turn enabling you to provide the said service, i.e.they profit from the internet abuse. IMHO this is perfectly valid reason for expanding the listing. The target is to motivate you to stop the abuse. If you're willing to do it, and would actually do it, the problem goes away. Have you even considered ways of doing just that? You're expecting the others to pay for the problems your clients are causing. Not very nice. Blacklisting clean IPs of the companies which offer nothing
more than just IP Transit does not primarily fulfill an informational purpuse for other Spamhaus users, it's sipmly a form of illegal coercion to force those companies to get rid of us
The other companies enable you to provide services that are being abused. Nobody wants you to stop providing the VPN service. They want you to stop the abuse coming from your systems. The rest of the internet is not obligated to accept your traffic. They are also not obligated to accept the traffic from your upstreams (unless there are contracts mandating it). So, I think you should stop whining about the listings, and fix the problem that caused them in the first place. esa