On Wed, Apr 7, 2010 at 12:25 PM, Frank Gadegast <phade@www.powerweb.de> wrote:

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> HI, Frank!

Hi,

> Feel your frustration. But do a quick google search on FUSSP.

April fools day if over ...

> Anyway, your solution would impose costs on others (i.e. RIPE, other ISPs),

Sure, but they can easily be shared with the same method that RIPE
uses for the member fees, big ISPs pay more, small ones less.
In fact it will be simple some costs at RIPE.
And who cares what a spamming provider will have to invest to get
his customers cleaned ?

Im somehow getting the idea, that those people on this list that
are always AGAINST any idea ARE these providers, that are too lazy
to control their spambotted customers.
Could that be the final reason why we do not find a solution ?

I added some more statistics to our own blacklist.
Then I will run the ASes of everyboy on this list Im aware
off through this statistics next month and gonna post
the results to this list, lets see ...

Maybe everybody on this list running a blacklist or statistics
about spam he receives should do this too.

> and would be easily abused to destroy an ISP you don't like.

How that ?
By sending fake reports to RIPE clearing address ?

I recommended that the ISP has to categorize the report
himself like you can do on spamcop too, he can simply
select "no spam from us" and thats it.

And RIPE can control the behaviour of the ISP easily
with some simple statistics ...
The system should work fuzzy-like, only the really
bad ones get punished and the ones with little problems
get away.

And RIPE can easily reject reports coming from the same
IPs all the time ... or the ISP under a fake attack can
talk to RIPE about it, that problem isnt really hard
to solve.

Kind regards, Frank
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