Hi Nick, El 18/5/19 15:38, "Nick Hilliard" <nick@foobar.org> escribió: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-abuse-wg wrote on 18/05/2019 14:32: > This will not work. > > Allowing every resource holder in the world to use their own form means > that you need to develop tons of specific reporting tools to match all > those specific formats and bring the cost of that to the victims. > Meanwhile, if reporting is done by email, attaching logs, it can be > processed by the ISP that get the money from the abusive customer, and > if the cost (if any) falls on the right side. So, either RIPE LIRs adopt Jordi's work flow for abuse complaint management, or the RIPE NCC will take away their internet addresses? I'm sure you know this, just in case ... policy proposals are precisely to find an agreement in the community, so yes, it is my proposal, but it is up to the community discussion to agree on what we believe is best, this is my understanding on rough consensus. I'm definitively for making sure that the victims don't have costs, as they aren't getting money for that. I think it is a perfect valid wish. In case you haven’t noticed it, APNIC already agreed with my proposal and is being implemented. Pity that we don't have a presentation of it in the next meeting, however, it was presented last week in LACNIC and you can follow the slides and video (English) here: https://www.lacnic.net/innovaportal/file/3635/1/lacnic31-apnic-policies-upda... For the video see minute 39:00: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUU7-FTv-n0&feature=youtu.be Wow. Nick ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this communication and delete it.