Well, I can personally feel it when comparing abuse reporting in those regions (before and after the policy implementation) vs RIPE. That’s sufficient for me. I call it results. Also, when the LIRs don’t respond to abuse cases or abuse-c emails bounce, I can ask the relevant RIR to resolve it, and if they can’t, they must enforce the policy. Again, I call it a very noticeable result, vs this region where I have nothing to do. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet
El 30 nov 2023, a las 9:53, Leo Vegoda <leo@vegoda.org> escribió:
Hi Jordi,
On Thu, 30 Nov 2023 at 09:36, jordi.palet--- via anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
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Each RIR has measured the “level of adoption” as they progressed with the initial verification (and this was presented at least a couple of times in every RIR), so there are slides in each of them, showing the progress. I can try to find them for you in the previous year's events if you can’t find them. Also my personal experience reporting over 1.500 abuse cases, average per day, shows that I get more “happy-ending” responses from those regions than before and keeps going better and better, which is not the case from RIPE unfortunately.
I was hoping for measurements showing an actual reduction in abuse. If there is no reduction in abuse that can be tightly linked to abuse-c verification etc... then what value does it bring?
Kind regards,
Leo
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