I’m afraid you’ve misunderstood me. I haven’t been talking about people going out to clean networks not their own. All I would like to see is people accepting responsibility for the networks that they do control

As for other concerns eg Volker raised about the difference between a heavily abused customer and a malicious actor, that is a judgement call that every large provider abuse team has had to face so far

--srs
 

From: anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Randy Bush <randy@psg.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2020 9:38 PM
To: Suresh Ramasubramanian
Cc: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net
Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] working in new version of 2019-04 (Validation of "abuse-mailbox")
 
> It would be interesting if a large number of people who actually work
> for the security / infosec / abuse teams of various ripe members were
> to attend the aawg meetings instead of a clutch of mostly IP / dns /
> network people.

did. a couple of interesting presos, but the plural of anecdote is not
data. and a bun fight over becomig the net police. rinse repeat. i
can try pushing water uphill at home.

randy