I’m repeating my message because co-chair omitted Sam Cox (tech@ctu.pw) who requested information to the group. You guys have grouped my information complicating the understanding and joined the messages as if one were. Are different matters in the message sent to the group: Vol 58, Issue 1.

Obviously I’m not surprised at such behavior. There have been worse and is in line with the character of you. You guys would be less dishonest cancelling my registry in aa-wg.

About your behavior: in the last weeks were treated only "private" matters, "off list". No voice was raised to complain in favor of the noble "real" purpose of the Group. Congratulations, you are again confirming my thesis of the fox in the henhouse.

I would like to propose to the RIPE the formation of a group to discuss the abuse in the use of Internet related to sending messages. Abuse should be reported with evidence. These evidence should include the measures taken against abuse and the measures implemented by companies and/or persons involved. With these elements the group would discuss necessary measures.

The current group does not allow companies that do not honor the rules established for the practice of sending messages are reported. The 160 billion spam a day explain such behavior but not justify.

1- Webexxpurts/Interconnects/FiberGrid/

TurboVPS (Sam Cox)

Sam Cox,

Deepening your search:

aut-num:   AS57972
as-name:        Jingyun

jingyun.com IP 72.34.51.46, it is owned by LIAN ZHIJIE of Organization GIGATON IDC INC with 171 domains

Address Gigaton: Dongyng, China. Contact by whois@gidc.com

These websites with counterfeit products have as aim to steal credit card data; and Lian is one of the 40 thieves of Alibaba Group.

2- The Reincarnation of a Bulletproof Hoster (Host Sailor, Ltd.) (Ronald F. Guilmette)
Ronald,

your specific dealings with Host Sailor or other ISP are, in the James Gannon, Brian Nisbet, Sander Steffann and Michele Neylon opinion, not relevant to this group...

Off list?

Marilson

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Will someone explain this mess?:
Sam,
Deepening your search:
aut-num: AS57972
as-name: Jingyun jingyun.com IP 72.34.51.46 ? it is owned by LIAN ZHIJIE of Organization GIGATON IDC INC with 171 domains Address Gigaton: Dongyng, China ? contact by whois@gidc.com These websites with counterfeit products have as aim to steal credit card data; and Lian is one of the 40 thieves of Alibaba Group. Ronald,your specific dealings with Host Sailor or other ISP are, in the James Gannon, Brian Nisbet, Sander Steffann and Michele Neylon opinion, not relevant to this group... off list?

Marilson

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TurboVPS (Sam Cox)

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Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2016 13:42:53 -0700
From: "Ronald F. Guilmette" <rfg@tristatelogic.com>
To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net
Subject: [anti-abuse-wg] The Reincarnation of a Bulletproof Hoster
(Host Sailor, Ltd.)
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I wouldn't want any of you to miss this, least of all Khalid Hemida... umm...
I mean "Khalid Cook"... by which I mean our own "Alexander Freeman", of
course:

http://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/08/the-reincarnation-of-a-bulletproof-hoster/

So what happens now Khalid? Are you going to stiff your customers and
your suppliers again when you shut down this time, you know, like you did
last time, when you were operating as "Santrex"?

Regards,
rfg

P.S. For those of you who are curious, AS60117 (Host Sailor, Ltd.) has
only two connections to the internet, i.e. AS43350 - NForce Entertainment
B.V. (NL) and AS9009 - M247 Ltd. (UK).

It probably wouldn't hurt anything if individuals on this list who have
an opinion on all this trensmitted that opinion to these two companies.
They may perhaps be unaware of the broad range of criminal activities
being facilitated by their customer, AS60117, Host Sailor, Ltd.

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Date: Thu, 04 Aug 2016 01:33:36 +0200
From: Sam Cox <tech@ctu.pw>
To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net
Subject: [anti-abuse-wg] Webexxpurts/Interconnects/FiberGrid/TurboVPS
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I've been looking into these companies, who seem to specialise in hosting counterfeit goods websites such as these:

http://fcansw.org.au
http://toutaubagnecontrelalgv.fr

The ASNs involved seem to be these, but there may be further
http://bgp.he.net/AS57858#_whois
http://bgp.he.net/AS57972#_whois
http://bgp.he.net/AS60485#_whois

Further examples of the types of hosted sites
http://www.malwareurl.com/ns_listing.php?as=AS57858
http://www.malwareurl.com/ns_listing.php?as=AS57972
http://www.malwareurl.com/ns_listing.php?as=AS60485

Appears to be run by Mr. Arun Kumar / Deepak Mehta, likely out of Estonia
http://www.hostjury.com/reviews/turbovps

Anyone have any further information about these companies?

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