peter h wrote:
On Wednesday 11 March 2009 15.44, Sascha Wilms wrote:
Hi Ian, hi guys,
we actually enforce rules regarding bulk emails through the Certified Senders Alliance. Enforcement can naturally be applied only to those senders participating in the CSA - however, in Germany our service has become the de facto industry standard for email marketers, and the amount of emails sent by certified senders is huge. Thus, we have gained a very good leverage over this industry.
we at eco maintain a general complaints hotline, and I can't remember having seen any complaint by users or ISPs about a missing opt-out link only. Complaints are about UCEs, and not missing opt-out possibilities. So I guess we are pretty much the only body dealing with the enforcement of those rules like opt-out links, and we have effective sanctions for not sticking to the rules (and opt-out is definitely one of those rules!).
Actually, our set of rules goes beyond the stipulations made by the EU directive. And we keep on tightening the rules: SPF has now become mandatory for senders (ISPs are left with the choice whether to use this info); DKIM and double-opt-in, for example, are now recommended criteria and will be turned into mandatory criteria with the next revision of the admission criteria.
We consider this industry standard approach more efficient than any legislative approach.
Rgds Sascha
If germany is so good at stopping spam, how come that providers like schlund is still out-of-jail ? ( i have more examples of spam originating in germany)
Hi, this is pretty easy. You will need a person or company willing to go to the police or contact a lawyer, before this can worked on by legal entities. And: you can only complain for those case, that happened to you and not in general. Users are usually uninformed about their possibilities and only complain a lot. Spam is not being recognized by the masses as being a crime so far. Thats why we need a solution to measure the spam polution of providers in general and need a more international solution that really hurts those provider. RIPE would be great, ECO too ... Kind regards, Frank Mit freundlichen Gruessen, -- PHADE Software - PowerWeb http://www.powerweb.de Inh. Dipl.-Inform. Frank Gadegast mailto:frank@powerweb.de Schinkelstrasse 17 fon: +49 33200 52920 14558 Nuthetal OT Rehbruecke, Germany fax: +49 33200 52921 ====================================================================== Public PGP Key available for frank@powerweb.de