Hi Alessandro, As I've indicated already several times (and not just in this discussion), all the RIRs have forms or other methods to escalate any issues. The proposal is only changing "let's have stats". El 4/5/20 12:29, "anti-abuse-wg en nombre de Alessandro Vesely" <anti-abuse-wg-bounces@ripe.net en nombre de vesely@tana.it> escribió: Hi, On 29/04/2020 13:22, Gert Doering wrote: > > If people *want* to handle abuse reports, they do so today already > (and if they mess up their mail reception, the NCC will check this today > already, and let them know). > > If people *do not want* to handle abuse reports, this proposal will not > make them. The above is unquestionable truth. There is a grey area, where a mailbox doesn't work because of misconfiguration, mailbox full, or similar issues. Validation might help in those cases. However, statements like: The “abuse-c:” will be mandatory for all aut-nums are in conflict with the unquestionable truth quoted above. Please, allow abuse-c to be empty! I have to keep a dont-send list of non-responding abuse addresses. Some 70% of the complaints I would have sent hit that list. It would be more practical to have an empty abuse-c entry in the first place. In addition, having networks without abuse addresses makes them more easily identifiable. RIPE NCC could compile the relevant IP addresses into an easily usable format, for example one readable by rbldns. Rather than following-up and threatening resource revocation, upon repeated validation failures, the RIPE NCC should just remove the non-working abuse-c entry, thereby adding the relevant IP addresses to the "no-complaints" list. A web form to report bouncing abuse addresses would be useful too. Best Ale -- ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this communication and delete it.