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Today's Topics:

  1. RIPE Abuse (Chris)
  2. Re: RIPE Abuse (Michele Neylon :: Blacknight)
  3. Re: RIPE Abuse (Chris)
  4. Re: RIPE Abuse (Michele Neylon :: Blacknight)
  5. Re: RIPE Abuse (Florian Weimer)
  6. Re: RIPE Abuse (Brian Nisbet)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 14:18:53 -0400
From: Chris <caldcv@gmail.com>
Subject: [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE Abuse
To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net
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Vesna sent me a request to join this group and with your meeting
coming up, I would like to put some last minute issues in:

XSServer, a German virtual private server / dedicated server hosting
provider, is starting to be the new king when it comes to ignored
abuse complaints. A lot of their IP ranges are being used for spam,
including email and the new comment spam on websites / forums (mainly
Wordpress). The simple solution taken by webmasters and system
administrators are to create a list of offending IPs to have for
comparison purposes, check a potential IP against that and use that IP
to block the spam from going through. That doesn't really work in the
long term.

Examples of offending IPs are:
109.230.216.225
109.230.220.34
109.230.217.166
109.230.220.95

I could find more but I just searched 109.230 in my email client and
found these.

I have noticed also that a lot of RIPE IPs also have invalid contact
information or no abuse / admin information whatsoever on them which I
believe is against your rules / guidelines.

Thank you and thank you for Vesna for recommending this mailing list
for me. I just imagine a day we rely on blacklists and rely more on
providers fixing the problems themselves, rather than having any
incompetent government intervene to cause more problems to "fix the
problem"

--
--C

"The dumber people think you are, the more surprised they're going to
be when you kill them." - Sir William Clayton



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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 18:34:52 +0000
From: "Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" <michele@blacknight.ie>
Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE Abuse
To: Chris <caldcv@gmail.com>
Cc: "<anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net>" <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net>
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On 30 Oct 2011, at 18:18, Chris wrote:
>
>
> I have noticed also that a lot of RIPE IPs also have invalid contact
> information or no abuse / admin information whatsoever on them which I
> believe is against your rules / guidelines.

I'm not an expert on RIPE policy / rules, but the invalid contact info would probably be a breach and you can report it to RIPE.

The lack of an abuse contact wouldn't be a breach of any rules that I'm aware of

Regards

Michele



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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 14:39:30 -0400
From: Chris <caldcv@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE Abuse
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Whats the proper way to report to RIPE for invalid contact info?



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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 30 Oct 2011 18:52:00 +0000
From: "Michele Neylon :: Blacknight" <michele@blacknight.ie>
Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE Abuse
To: Chris <caldcv@gmail.com>
Cc: "anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net" <anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net>
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I'd try the contact page on the ripe site

Mr. Michele Neylon
Blacknight
http://Blacknight.tel

Via iPhone so excuse typos and brevity

On 30 Oct 2011, at 18:40, "Chris" <caldcv@gmail.com> wrote:

> Whats the proper way to report to RIPE for invalid contact info?
>



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 08:28:41 +0000
From: Florian Weimer <fweimer@bfk.de>
Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE Abuse
To: Chris <caldcv@gmail.com>
Cc: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net
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* Chris:

> XSServer, a German virtual private server / dedicated server hosting
> provider, is starting to be the new king when it comes to ignored
> abuse complaints.

Have you brought this to the attention of the folks at
optimate-server.de?

(I'm not saying that it would help, I'm just trying to get a more
complete picture.)

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Kriegsstra?e 100              tel: +49-721-96201-1
D-76133 Karlsruhe            fax: +49-721-96201-99



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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 31 Oct 2011 09:17:51 +0000
From: Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet@heanet.ie>
Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE Abuse
To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net
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Chris,

Chris wrote, On 30/10/2011 18:18:
>
> I have noticed also that a lot of RIPE IPs also have invalid contact
> information or no abuse / admin information whatsoever on them which I
> believe is against your rules / guidelines.
>
> Thank you and thank you for Vesna for recommending this mailing list
> for me. I just imagine a day we rely on blacklists and rely more on
> providers fixing the problems themselves, rather than having any
> incompetent government intervene to cause more problems to "fix the
> problem"

You're not the only person to have noticed and raised this. There is
currently a Task Force examining abuse contact information (due to
report on current progress on Tuesday afternoon) and the NCC will be
reporting on their new abuse contact measures during the session as well.

Hopefully you'll be able to join us (either physically or via the
Internet) on Tuesday and hopefully some, if not all, of your questions
will be answered.

Thanks,

Brian.





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