Colleagues, It is a great pity that I feel I have to send a third mail in as many days. This is a list to discuss, in a professional manner, ways to deal, via technology, policy or other methods, with abuse on the Internet. Thankfully this is what the vast, vast majority of people on this list do. It is not a place to attack others or to repeat the same accusations over and over. It's a place to work together, to find common ground and to reach consensus on the best way forward. It is also not a place to directly report abuse. This WG cannot act directly against anyone, nor should it be able to. That is for other bodies. This does not mean that we cannot comment on other organisations or actions when they are abusing the Internet, but we can do so in a reasonable and professional fashion. If you aren't here for that, then I suggest you go somewhere else on the Internet. There are many places that will cater to your needs. I also realise that there are different interpretations of reasonable and professional, but I think even with some very wide bands some recent contributions have strayed well into unacceptable territory. I know there are people who feel Tobias and I are censoring them or picking sides or some such thing. This is not the case. The requirements don't vary depending on who you are. This is all about what you do or say either on this list or at a physical meeting of the Working Group. Everyone is free to leave this list whenever they wish, but I would greatly prefer if people stayed and contributed in the manner I have described above. As always, feel free to contact Tobias and I on aa-wg-chair@ripe.net to discuss this or other matters. I realise that not everyone on the list is a native English speaker, so if anything I have written is unclear, I apologise, I would be more than happy to talk directly and remove any confusion. I very much hope that we can now move on to other topics, or even return to the substantive part of the current one. Thank you, Brian -- Brian Nisbet, Network Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin 1 Registered in Ireland, no 275301 tel: +35316609040 fax: +35316603666 web: http://www.heanet.ie/