On Wed, 30 May 2018 13:06:57 +0100 Malcolm Hutty <malcolm@linx.net> wrote:
But can we please leave out accusations that your political opponents abduct babies? That surely crosses the line. The trope is, at least,
there are no accusations of any kind. and, to be more clear, nobody said anything about abducting. Factually: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/28/us/trump-immigrant-children-lost.html The USA does forcefully remove babies from the arms of their mothers. Furthermore: The US Government does "lose" 000 these children. This is not accusations. And, mentioning the facts, as they are, undisputed, does not cross any line. And who are 'political opponents' ? Please do bother actually reading the argument? or ask if you did not understand it? Simply stating that, in your opinion, there are accusations and abductions are pathetic in itself as it completely ignores or addresses the salient fact that Ronald said my opinion is 'rubbish' and that my opinion is equal to what "Fox" blasts out and "Fox" (by implication, Republicans, in America states. It is my choice to find that offensive as by implication my opinion equates that which the USA (and Fox) is promoting. As it disgusts me, it is an insult and it is offensive.
Older Than Feudalism, and very likely Older Than Dirt, and as always raising it serves no purpose other than to demonise one group of people and to smear another by association, thereby shutting down the conversation. It's not an argument, it's a transparent attempt to exclude. Please stop.
Please stop what? Speaking the truth? Taking offense at people equating my opinions to rubbish? Please be more clear in what you are stating Malcolm? What would you like to stop?
More generally, I believe this discussion would be improved if people stopped throwing around terms like "European" and "Republican" as though they are terms of abuse. Our community is, and should be, open to all.
Who said anything to the contrary? Andre