As for simple graylisting why use a even back then not terribly effective 2000s era technique at all? Also - waiting for a 5xx smtp return code is ideal when deciding that a validation test has failed. You could actually have an email problem that isn't of the shoot yourself in the foot by deploying unsuitable anti spam measures category and have to delay accepting mail. --srs ________________________________ From: Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2019 4:18 AM To: Sérgio Rocha; anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] 2019-04 New Policy Proposal (Validation of "abuse-mailbox") So I don't know about other regions not having the same needs. APNIC has adopted this for example. https://www.apnic.net/community/policy/proposals/prop-125 --srs ________________________________ From: anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Sérgio Rocha <sergio.rocha@makeitsimple.pt> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 11:10 PM To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] 2019-04 New Policy Proposal (Validation of "abuse-mailbox") There are only one internet, the abuse problem its worldwide, the challenges for better management are the same, that's why all region are looking for the similar responses for the same problems. I support this proposals and other that give more capacity for RIPE deal with abuses. Sérgio Rocha -----Original Message----- From: Piotr Strzyzewski [mailto:Piotr.Strzyzewski@polsl.pl] Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2019 18:32 PM To: Sérgio Rocha <sergio.rocha@makeitsimple.pt> Cc: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] 2019-04 New Policy Proposal (Validation of "abuse-mailbox") On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 12:37:07AM +0100, Sérgio Rocha wrote:
i.e. 1 region on track, 4 still to go (RIPE included here).
So it looks that this proposal it's not so avant-garde, since the other regions are having the same needs and one of them already include this policy
The fact that the authori has proposed the same idea in all regions doesn't mean that "other regions are having the same needs". Piotr -- Piotr Strzyżewski Silesian University of Technology, Computer Centre Gliwice, Poland