Hi Sascha,
I didn't really expect everyone to agree to the current text. But I did not expect such language and comparisons on this list, and it shocked me. As one of the proposers I ask you to please participate in a constructive discussion here to see what is possible and desirable and what is not.
if you were under the impression I was attacking you personally, I apologize, that was not my intent. [...]
Thanks. Let's start focussing on the proposal again :-)
as for what is possible, I've thought more on it and have formend the opinion that the only thing out of it, I could accept, is publication of the fects if a complaint was upheld *and* resources removed for cause.
Your comment is still focused on one aspect of the draft text, but you haven't responded yet to any alternatives I proposed. The last one was the one I sent on Saturday: I want to suggest the following direction for this proposal: Change section 1 (1. Transparency on reported policy violations) to: - RIPE NCC publishes statistics on complaints/reports (number of complaints in each state: new, under investigation, etc) - RIPE NCC provides a way for the complainer and resource holder to see the progress, keeping the currently existing privacy options And leave section 2 (2. Transparency on reclaimed resources) as it currently is. I haven't seen any objections to that part yet. Please focus on this suggestion now. It is obvious that we are never getting consensus on the 'old' text :-) Thanks, Sander