Hi Nick, All, On Tue, 1 Oct 2019, Nick Hilliard wrote:
Marco Schmidt wrote on 01/10/2019 13:18:
As per the RIPE Policy Development Process (PDP), the purpose of this four-week Discussion Phase is to discuss the proposal and provide feedback to the proposer.
This version addresses none of the issues I brought up with the previous version in May:
https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/anti-abuse-wg/2019-May/005120.html
There isn't a major problem with the RIPE NCC testing abuse mailboxes on a purely advisory basis, but the RIPE abuse working group has no authority to
I'm sure you meant the RIPE *anti*-abuse working group :-)))
dictate to internet resource holders how to perform their abuse management workflow, with an explicit threat that their businesses will be ruined unless they comply to the letter.
I don't think it's a matter of authority, but only a matter of understanding if the community wants to tighten the requeriments (or not).
Alex de Joode pointed out on May 17th that the proposal also lacks proportionality and would be unlikely to be upheld in court. It seems inadvisable that the RIPE NCC should implement a policy with such poor legal basis.
What you mean is that if someone just flushes some bogus abuse contact, it isn't as serious as providing falsified data/documents to the RIPE NCC....? Because that bogus data is not aimed at the NCC but instead at the world, then it should be OK...?
The policy is fundamentally broken and should be withdrawn.
I haven't read this version yet, but i will. Regards, Carlos
Nick