Re: [anti-abuse-wg] VOTE: members and RIPE region only
Rob Evans wrote:
why should anybody not associated with the RIPE region be part of the RIPE community ?
Because the Internet is global.
Ahhh, I did not think about that (*godsake*)
Sorry, thats confusing. RIR stand for "regional" not world-wide. The community should also be a regional community. RIPE NCC defines itself as: The RIPE NCC is an independent, not-for-profit membership organisation that supports the infrastructure of the Internet through technical coordination in its service region. "Service region" ! At least RIPE is worldwide in the way, that its resources are globaly routed and misused worldwide ... I dont think that RIPE and RIPE NCC should not listen to users and organisations world-wide, but descissions should only be made be users from the RIPE region. Thats the same with the spamhause discussion we had. RIPE NCC has to check everything to its own regulations, but they could listen to important sources like spamhaus. And we are here to discuss definitions and regulations for the RIPE region, to discuss drafts and give advice to boards and descission makers in the RIPE region. We do not have to discuss them with people that hide behind anonymous services offered world wide. We could listen to them, but progress should only be defined by members.
Rob
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Hi Frank, APNIC community voted and accepted a policy on IRT object by Tobias, not by Abusix. But he shared his very valid experience from abusix while defending the prop. Same goes to Mr. X of spamhaus (if he is), though he should come up with something tangible to discuss. Secondly, we've to filter around a million spam every day and a big amount of it source from RIPE region so it's my right to be here and give whatever input I can to make my life easy while living in other RIR. (sorry for not being in line) On Tuesday, August 9, 2011, Frank Gadegast <ripe-anti-spam-wg@powerweb.de> wrote:
Rob Evans wrote:
why should anybody not associated with the RIPE region be part of the RIPE community ?
Because the Internet is global.
Ahhh, I did not think about that (*godsake*)
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Sorry, thats confusing.
RIR stand for "regional" not world-wide. The community should also be a regional community.
RIPE NCC defines itself as: The RIPE NCC is an independent, not-for-profit membership organisation that supports the infrastructure of the Internet through technical coordination in its service region.
"Service region" !
At least RIPE is worldwide in the way, that its resources are globaly routed and misused worldwide ...
I dont think that RIPE and RIPE NCC should not listen to users and organisations world-wide, but descissions should only be made be users from the RIPE region.
Thats the same with the spamhause discussion we had. RIPE NCC has to check everything to its own regulations, but they could listen to important sources like spamhaus.
And we are here to discuss definitions and regulations for the RIPE region, to discuss drafts and give advice to boards and descission makers in the RIPE region. We do not have to discuss them with people that hide behind anonymous services offered world wide. We could listen to them, but progress should only be defined by members.
Rob
Kind regards, Frank -- PHADE Software - PowerWeb http://www.powerweb.de Inh. Dipl.-Inform. Frank Gadegast mailto:frank@powerweb.de Schinkelstrasse 17 fon: +49 33200 52920 14558 Nuthetal OT Rehbruecke, Germany fax: +49 33200 52921 ====================================================================== Public PGP Key available for frank@powerweb.de
-- Regards, Aftab A. Siddiqui
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