Colleagues, While the Anti-Abuse WG welcomes a free exchange of ideas and opinions, it does not welcome personal abuse of any kind. This includes, but is absolutely not limited to, their ethnicity or religion. Please remember this as we all continue to work together to make the Internet a better place. Brian Co-Chair, RIPE AA WG -- Brian Nisbet, Network Operations Manager HEAnet CLG, Ireland's Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin 1 Registered in Ireland, no 275301 tel: +35316609040 fax: +35316603666 web: http://www.heanet.ie/
On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 08:53:07 +0000 Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet@heanet.ie> wrote:
Colleagues, While the Anti-Abuse WG welcomes a free exchange of ideas and opinions, it does not welcome personal abuse of any kind. This includes, but is absolutely not limited to, their ethnicity or religion. Please remember this as we all continue to work together to make the Internet a better place.
I note the thread you created is: Language on List, but your post contains no specifics about the Subject used? Maybe if you spoke more plainly and openly and said what you mean to say without the UN type diplomacy, where one has to spend too much time to analize a single sentence and create ten different scenarios based on projections and probabilities of what was meant or intended? Anyway, my thoughts on that is that I am not sure specifically which words give offense and to what degree and to discuss this ad infinitum and to the absolute level of political correctness on a wg list where many, like myself, are just techs, is limiting in terms of simply communicating ideas. If I speak French and use "merde" it may be unacceptable, socially but yet I have heard many English speakers use "merde" and then in that society this is acceptable... Anyway, my point is that we should choose not to take offense at certain English words, I think maybe "crap" is such an example? as it is in common and acceptable use in many places? and imho, we should try to be much more tolerant more specifically where there are so many different cultures on an open and free list.... then again, I may be very wrong - so help me out :) Andre
Morning, On 31/01/2017 09:08, ox wrote:
On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 08:53:07 +0000 Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet@heanet.ie> wrote:
Colleagues, While the Anti-Abuse WG welcomes a free exchange of ideas and opinions, it does not welcome personal abuse of any kind. This includes, but is absolutely not limited to, their ethnicity or religion. Please remember this as we all continue to work together to make the Internet a better place.
I note the thread you created is: Language on List, but your post contains no specifics about the Subject used?
Maybe if you spoke more plainly and openly and said what you mean to say without the UN type diplomacy, where one has to spend too much time to analize a single sentence and create ten different scenarios based on projections and probabilities of what was meant or intended?
I shall be more clear, in that case. I have little or no problem with generalised swearing. It's a part of modern language and while I generally would not use it in professional written communications myself, I'm not going to attempt to censor anyone else for it. What I do not believe is acceptable is ad hominem attacks. There were what I believe were implied anti-Semetic comments made during the recent thread and that is not something that is allowed. Simple as that. Brian Co-Chair, RIPE AA-WG
On Tue, 31 Jan 2017 09:21:37 +0000 Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet@heanet.ie> wrote:
I shall be more clear, in that case. I have little or no problem with generalised swearing. It's a part of modern language and while I generally would not use it in professional written communications myself, I'm not going to attempt to censor anyone else for it.
What I do not believe is acceptable is ad hominem attacks. There were what I believe were implied anti-Semetic comments made during the recent thread and that is not something that is allowed. Simple as that.
+1 and thank you so much for being direct, it needed to be said so that there is no confusion about the problem that exists. Andre
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