Re: [anti-abuse-wg] AS41609, AS203974, and Alexandru ("Andrei") Stanciu / Suceava, Romania
I do get that a problem with incompetence and/or malice depending on which way hanlons razor cuts in allowing these ranges to be hijacked is being shoved onto receiving isps for them to mitigate it, yes. --srs
On 04-Aug-2017, at 1:35 PM, ox <andre@ox.co.za> wrote:
On Fri, 4 Aug 2017 13:31:29 +0530 Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
Lovely of you to mansplain rdns based spam filtering to Ron - he’s been doing it since at least 1998 that I know of, most probably earlier
I think you are confused or deliberately trying to distribute FUD
Did you note that I quoted what Ron already said on nanog - for this list?
This means that;
imnsho many people on THIS LIST are relaying email when there is no reverse.
get it?
Andre
On Fri, 4 Aug 2017 15:46:29 +0530 Suresh Ramasubramanian <ops.lists@gmail.com> wrote:
I do get that a problem with incompetence and/or malice depending on which way hanlons razor cuts in allowing these ranges to be hijacked is being shoved onto receiving isps for them to mitigate it, yes.
cool, but other than educating what do you do about ignorance? and when we, as a wg, cannot even agree on what defines abuse, how do you manage malice? Our entire system, on multiple levels (network peer and service/mail interoperability,. etc) depends on co-operation, freedom and openness. Sure, I have only been on the network now for 30 years, so many of you are my senior, but theoretically some issues are not solvable without deducting from either freedom or from one of the others. (imho anyway - please feel free to add/edit) Andre
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