Dear all, I could not be more in agreement with you. We need to do something, and we need to do it as a community - perhaps this time of confinement can be used for us to shape the discussion and try to find concrete and actionable points where we can jointly work for an improvement of the Internet in our region. Curbing abuse and leaving less space for criminals and miscreants to exploit the weaknesses of our systems should be a higher value than making profit: maybe it is the time to discuss a voluntary code of conduct that can be acting as "corporate social responsibility" and can be embraced by those members and operators that are willing to step up in their fight against crime? Kind regards, Sara Marcolla Europol - O3 European Cyber Crime Centre (EC3) www.europol.europa.eu -----Original Message----- From: anti-abuse-wg <anti-abuse-wg-bounces@ripe.net> On Behalf Of Tõnu Tammer via anti-abuse-wg Sent: 17 April 2020 09:10 To: anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net Cc: Heli Tiirmaa-Klaar <Heli.Tiirmaa-Klaar@mfa.ee> Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE NCC Executive Board election Dear friends, Every member of the community, who is on the receiving end of abuse, feels that something should be done! I reiterate what I have said before: this is just one example of how todays' approach in handling abuse or designing anti-abuse policy is not really working. I am not the only one who has realised that this community seems not to agree anything. That is perfectly understandable. When once there was just academia who drove the development of internet, now the community has grown encompassing legitimate business but also abusers who have become part of that community. We can always find reasons (justified or not) on why not to do anything or change anything but we have to understand that impact of not doing anything will continue to grow. Already number of countries argue rightly that the multi-stakeholder approach is not working. And that is all too true. The reasons why they want to change are likely not driven by the fact current approach is not working but something more serious. We have to stop fuelling the arguments that decentralised model is not delivering. If we continue as we have, we will have changes forced upon us (thing we have turned down so far) but its likely that more will come and things, we would not be happy to see at all. -- Tõnu Tammer CERT-EE juht / Executive Director of CERT-EE Riigi Infosüsteemi Amet / Estonian Information System Authority Email: tonu@cert.ee Mobile: +372 53 284 054 Web: https://cert.ee PGP:0x77A8997 / 9477 6B86 6A1E 849B C456 46D6 9CA8 9E41 77A8 997B ******************* DISCLAIMER : This message is sent in confidence and is only intended for the named recipient. If you receive this message by mistake, you may not use, copy, distribute or forward this message, or any part of its contents or rely upon the information contained in it. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete the relevant e-mails from any computer. This message does not constitute a commitment by Europol unless otherwise indicated. *******************