Re: [anti-abuse-wg] AS24940 Hetzner -- non-role contact wanted
Hi, On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 07:52:44AM +0200, ac wrote:
NETWORK providers provide routing - to companies, people and even countries
Hetzner is not exactly a *network* provider. They are more a hosting shop, and if you do that, you need to take responsibility for criminal activities inside your network.
You, in your childish innocence (ignorance) wants to complain to a network provider and you refuse that the network provider sends your complaint to the service provider.
Maybe you need to upgrade your knowledge on what Hetzner actually does? Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael Emmer Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279
Guten Tag Gert, you are on the correct path, totally agree. They are a cloud provider and it is extremely clear what services they offer from their own public website. Hence a renter, as such, could set up a server and start emailing the planet, so there is no excuse to feel attacked and acuse Ronald, because that was not the point in the first place. Just a mere tactic to confuse, but does not confuse me ! What Ronald said remains, and is very clear. Looks like the other party ist keine Gehirn, or does not want to have one................................... Regards On Thu, 2019-04-25 at 08:11 +0200, Gert Doering wrote:
Hi, On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 07:52:44AM +0200, ac wrote: NETWORK providers provide routing - to companies, people and evencountries Hetzner is not exactly a *network* provider. They are more a hostingshop, and if you do that, you need to take responsibility for criminalactivities inside your network. You, in your childish innocence (ignorance) wants to complain to anetwork provider and you refuse that the network provider sends yourcomplaint to the service provider. Maybe you need to upgrade your knowledge on what Hetzner actually does? Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- Richard Benfatto
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On Thu, 25 Apr 2019 08:11:55 +0200 Gert Doering <gert@space.net> wrote:
Hi, On Thu, Apr 25, 2019 at 07:52:44AM +0200, ac wrote:
NETWORK providers provide routing - to companies, people and even countries Hetzner is not exactly a *network* provider. They are more a hosting shop, and if you do that, you need to take responsibility for criminal activities inside your network. You, in your childish innocence (ignorance) wants to complain to a network provider and you refuse that the network provider sends your complaint to the service provider. Maybe you need to upgrade your knowledge on what Hetzner actually does?
Actually we are both wrong Gert. Hetzner does provide racks as well as provide servers as well as provide hosting... When a EMAIL abuse complaint is received where Hetzner is only the routing/network provider - Hetzner has no way of investigating same and if the complainant wishes Hetzner to become involved, Hetzner needs to establish if there is actual abuse, if the provider has been compromised, etc etc and in order to do that, Hetzner needs to involve the service provider. Andre
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