no whois record for another crappy ISP
Hi, does anybody know why there is no whois record for the so-called ISP named "jazztel.es" ? It just says: "This TLD has no whois server" How is such possible?
Go to nic.es Mr. Michele Neylon Blacknight http://Blacknight.tel Via iPhone so excuse typos and brevity On 31 Jan 2012, at 22:53, "U.Mutlu" <security@mutluit.com> wrote:
Hi,
does anybody know why there is no whois record for the so-called ISP named "jazztel.es" ?
It just says: "This TLD has no whois server" How is such possible?
I need functioning contact data of them (abuse email address or fax), such data is not available there. abuse@jazztel.es always bounces, and the fax number +34 91 291 7570 isn't available (those I got indirectly from other records). Michele Neylon :: Blacknight wrote, On 01/31/12 23:56:
Go to nic.es
Mr. Michele Neylon Blacknight http://Blacknight.tel
Via iPhone so excuse typos and brevity
On 31 Jan 2012, at 22:53, "U.Mutlu"<security@mutluit.com> wrote:
Hi,
does anybody know why there is no whois record for the so-called ISP named "jazztel.es" ?
It just says: "This TLD has no whois server" How is such possible?
they use jazztel.com On 1/31/2012 6:15 PM, U.Mutlu wrote:
I need functioning contact data of them (abuse email address or fax), such data is not available there.
abuse@jazztel.es always bounces, and the fax number +34 91 291 7570 isn't available (those I got indirectly from other records).
Michele Neylon :: Blacknight wrote, On 01/31/12 23:56:
Go to nic.es
Mr. Michele Neylon Blacknight http://Blacknight.tel
Via iPhone so excuse typos and brevity
On 31 Jan 2012, at 22:53, "U.Mutlu"<security@mutluit.com> wrote:
Hi,
does anybody know why there is no whois record for the so-called ISP named "jazztel.es" ?
It just says: "This TLD has no whois server" How is such possible?
They've got full contact details on their website. Here's their postal address: http://www.jazztel.com/aviso-legal Telephone numbers are here: http://soporte.jazztel.com/contactar They clearly list their abuse address as abuse@jazztel.com in the RIPE DB I don't see any record of abuse@jazztel.es On 31 Jan 2012, at 23:15, U.Mutlu wrote:
I need functioning contact data of them (abuse email address or fax), such data is not available there.
abuse@jazztel.es always bounces, and the fax number +34 91 291 7570 isn't available (those I got indirectly from other records).
Michele Neylon :: Blacknight wrote, On 01/31/12 23:56:
Go to nic.es
Mr. Michele Neylon Blacknight http://Blacknight.tel
Via iPhone so excuse typos and brevity
On 31 Jan 2012, at 22:53, "U.Mutlu"<security@mutluit.com> wrote:
Hi,
does anybody know why there is no whois record for the so-called ISP named "jazztel.es" ?
It just says: "This TLD has no whois server" How is such possible?
Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting & Colocation, Brand Protection ICANN Accredited Registrar http://www.blacknight.com/ http://blog.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.mobi/ http://mneylon.tel Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 US: 213-233-1612 UK: 0844 484 9361 Locall: 1850 929 929 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Twitter: http://twitter.com/mneylon ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845
so-called ISP named "jazztel.es" ?
They seem to be home to bots and zombies for at least 5 years. They never answer or do anything about it.
russ@consumer.net wrote, On 02/01/12 00:05:
so-called ISP named "jazztel.es" ?
They seem to be home to bots and zombies for at least 5 years. They never answer or do anything about it.
Yeah, at least 10 abuse reports bounced: Subject: Error sending message [1328043607957.b6f31b70.7798.1063d2.s2] from [mutluit.com] Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 22:00:14 +0100 From: mutluit.com PostMaster <security@mutluit.com> To: security@mutluit.com [<00>] XMail bounce: Rcpt=[abuse@jazztel.es];Error=[550 Usuario desconocido.] [<01>] Error sending message [1328043607957.b6f31b70.7798.1063d2.s2] from [mutluit.com]. ID: <LE53C> Mail From: <security@mutluit.com> Rcpt To: <abuse@jazztel.es> Server: <mx.jazztel.es> [62.14.3.193] [<02>] The reason of the delivery failure was: 550 Usuario desconocido. <snip> What does "Usuario desconocido" mean? :-) Am I supposed to know that language? :-) Silly practice of making such essential data something different than english. Worst is Chinese and similar crap. I wonder if such people can't think a little bit globally.
U.Mutlu wrote, On 02/01/12 00:22:
550 Usuario desconocido.
What does "Usuario desconocido" mean? :-) Am I supposed to know that language? :-) Silly practice of making such essential data something different than english. Worst is Chinese and similar crap. I wonder if such people can't think a little bit globally.
Here's another example full with garbage characters: -------- Original Message -------- Subject: 系统退信 Date: Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:59:15 +0800 (CST) From: 系统管理员 <Postmaster@189.cn> To: security@mutluit.com *很抱歉地通知您，邮件无法发送到指定收件人，请先通过其它方式联系收� FE人，以免耽误。 * *被退回邮件* （Returned Mail） 主题（Subject）：[MIT-s2-CN2S254E50MP] Net Abuse: illegal ssh login attempt (hacker activity) from IP 113.105.128.254 日期（Date）：Tue, 31 Jan 2012 15:59:08 +0800 大小（Size）：397 *无法发送到*（Unable to send）：*< 02087188578@189.cn >* *退信原因* （The Reasons For Bounce） 收件人邮箱空间已满，所以无法收取您的邮件。 host 127.0.0.1[127.0.0.1] said: 550 amount exceed mailbox quota (in reply to end of DATA command) *解决建议* （Solutions）： 建议您通过其他方式联系收件方，并通知其清理自己的邮箱。 更多关于退信的帮助信息请点击这里 <http://www.189.cn/webmail/help/tuix/Bounce.html>。
On 31 Jan 2012, at 23:22, U.Mutlu wrote:
What does "Usuario desconocido" mean? :-)
User unknown
Am I supposed to know that language? :-)
If you want to communicate with a company based in Spain then yes
Silly practice of making such essential data something different than english.
A simple counter-argument to that is that not everybody speaks English. Why would a Spanish speaker want to deal with an error message in English?
Worst is Chinese and similar crap. I wonder if such people can't think a little bit globally.
Globally does not mean English only Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting & Colocation, Brand Protection ICANN Accredited Registrar http://www.blacknight.com/ http://blog.blacknight.com/ http://blacknight.mobi/ http://mneylon.tel Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 US: 213-233-1612 UK: 0844 484 9361 Locall: 1850 929 929 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 Twitter: http://twitter.com/mneylon ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park,Sleaty Road,Graiguecullen,Carlow,Ireland Company No.: 370845
Michele Neylon :: Blacknight wrote, On 02/01/12 00:38:
On 31 Jan 2012, at 23:22, U.Mutlu wrote:
What does "Usuario desconocido" mean? :-)
User unknown
Am I supposed to know that language? :-)
If you want to communicate with a company based in Spain then yes
No thanks! I don't need to learn all the sh*tty languages of all the 200 or so countries of the world.
Silly practice of making such essential data something different than english.
A simple counter-argument to that is that not everybody speaks English. Why would a Spanish speaker want to deal with an error message in English?
In a global communications infrasture we have to agree on a common technical language, and that is de-facto English. Unfortunately some prefer their national idiosyncrasies. An admin who does not know technical english is for me not worth a cent.
They dont need to hear complaints from you either. I have a lovely suggestion - take a pair of wire cutters and snip that long, glass tipped cable that feeds into your servers ethernet port .. you know, that square hole with a small slot above it. See, no spam at all! 100% guaranteed solution. On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 5:26 AM, U.Mutlu <security@mutluit.com> wrote:
No thanks! I don't need to learn all the sh*tty languages of all the 200 or so countries of the world.
-- Suresh Ramasubramanian (ops.lists@gmail.com)
On Wednesday 01 February 2012 02.23, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
They dont need to hear complaints from you either.
I have a lovely suggestion - take a pair of wire cutters and snip that long, glass tipped cable that feeds into your servers ethernet port .. you know, that square hole with a small slot above it.
See, no spam at all! 100% guaranteed solution.
An even better solution is to block all traffic from spain. This will preserve connectivity with "those that care" -- Peter Håkanson There's never money to do it right, but always money to do it again ... and again ... and again ... and again. ( Det är billigare att göra rätt. Det är dyrt att laga fel. )
U.Mutlu wrote, On 31/01/2012 23:56:
Michele Neylon :: Blacknight wrote, On 02/01/12 00:38:
On 31 Jan 2012, at 23:22, U.Mutlu wrote:
What does "Usuario desconocido" mean? :-)
User unknown
Am I supposed to know that language? :-)
If you want to communicate with a company based in Spain then yes
No thanks! I don't need to learn all the sh*tty languages of all the 200 or so countries of the world.
While the default language for use on RIPE mailing lists and at RIPE meetings is English, neither that nor any other reason you could come up with make the rest of the languages in any way inferior.
Silly practice of making such essential data something different than english.
A simple counter-argument to that is that not everybody speaks English. Why would a Spanish speaker want to deal with an error message in English?
In a global communications infrasture we have to agree on a common technical language, and that is de-facto English. Unfortunately some prefer their national idiosyncrasies. An admin who does not know technical english is for me not worth a cent.
That is up to you, but it's not a topic of conversation for this mailing list. Brian Co-Chair, RIPE AA-WG
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