Re: [anti-abuse-wg] WHOIS (AS204224)
On Fri, Nov 06, 2015 at 11:57:18AM -0500, Jeffrey Race wrote:
The internet resource management mechanism as managed by RIRs and LIRS is "of a criminal nature", do I understand you correctly?
The mechanism is the internet
Uhuh. I guess it's just as well that barely any operators seem to read this list. They may be less than happy to learn that they are all criminals. rgds, Sascha Luck
A bit of a correction here. They’re all one of these three (with the vast majority being in #1) 1. Victims of crime / fraud - and get to pay for all the security required to block it and to ensure that their customers remain secure + don’t abuse services 2. Victims of crime / fraud who can’t - or don’t want to - invest in such security 3. Other outfits that see a profit motive in providing services to abusers Still, they are part of a rather large and heavily abused ecosystem - called the Internet. —srs
On 06-Nov-2015, at 10:44 PM, Sascha Luck [ml] <aawg@c4inet.net> wrote:
Uhuh. I guess it's just as well that barely any operators seem to read this list. They may be less than happy to learn that they are all criminals.
You have misunderstood the English words. I said that the mechanism by which the internet operates was slackly designed and is slackly operated so has become a cesspool of criminality. Jeffrey Race On Fri, 6 Nov 2015 17:14:22 +0000, Sascha Luck [ml] wrote:
On Fri, Nov 06, 2015 at 11:57:18AM -0500, Jeffrey Race wrote:
The internet resource management mechanism as managed by RIRs and LIRS is "of a criminal nature", do I understand you correctly?
The mechanism is the internet
Uhuh. I guess it's just as well that barely any operators seem to read this list. They may be less than happy to learn that they are all criminals.
rgds, Sascha Luck
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