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FYI: From the European Commission: human rights guidance for 3 business sectors
by Patrik Fältström 19 Jul '19

19 Jul '19

Hi, As you can see below European Commission just released human rights guidance for 3 business sectors. I have helped COM and specifically IHRB with their piece of the work, and I know others on this list have also helped. Everything from more formal support to extremely good comments that have helped making the documents what they finally ended up being. Patrik Fältström Head of Research and Development Netnod Begin forwarded message: > From: <entr-csr(a)ec.europa.eu> > Subject: From the European Commission: human rights guidance for 3 business sectors > Date: 17 juni 2013 18:23:09 CEST > To: <entr-csr(a)ec.europa.eu> > > We are pleased to announce the publication of the European Commission Sector Guides on Implementing the UN Guiding Principles on Business and Human Rights. > > > Download the Guides here: http://ec.europa.eu/enterprise/newsroom/cf/itemdetail.cfm?item_id=6711&lang… > > The Guides – for employment and recruitment agencies, ICT companies, and oil and gas companies – were developed over the past 18 months by Shift and IHRB through extensive research and multistakeholder consultation with representatives from the three industries as well as governments, trade unions, civil society, academia and other experts. Read more about the Guides’ development here. > > Each Guide offers practical advice on how to implement the corporate responsibility to respect human rights in day-to-day business operations in each industry through step-by-step guidance. At each step, they summarise what the UN Guiding Principles expect, offer a range of approaches and examples for how to put them into practice, and link users to additional resources that can support their work. They are intended to help companies “translate” respect for human rights into their own systems and cultures. > > Many thanks to all those who have contributed to this process. > > Best regards, > > > CSR Team > > European Commission > Enterprise and Industry Directorate-General > Unit ENTR.D.1 >

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Press releases from European Commission, Brussels, 25 May 2016
by Gordon Lennox 02 Jun '16

02 Jun '16

The European Commission today tabled a package of measures to allow consumers and companies to buy and sell products and services online more easily and confidently across the EU. The European Commission today proposed an update of EU audiovisual rules to create a fairer environment for all players, promote European films, protect children and tackle hate speech better. http://europa.eu/rapid/latest-press-releases.htm

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Details about the nature of my self-nomination as wg co-chair
by Analia Aspis 01 Jun '16

01 Jun '16

Dear group, I have been following the discussion related to co-chairs nominees. In order to let the group to know a bit more my profile and my commitement to the wg, here I go with some extra explanations: 1. "*One chair should be relatively plugged in and active in the general policy development process in the RIPE region (not only EU)*" I am a South American academic but with a different profile from the classic academics. Since I did start with ICT policy issues, I have been very involved with CS and goverment, listening to their point of view so as to perform a more comprehensive understanding of policy development process. In general temrs, LatinAmericans always "watch and apply" policies from the "North". In this sense, I am very excited to be part of policy discussions, so as to understand and give my perspective from another point of view. 2. *WG involves outreach and bringing others into the community* In the same direction as pointed out above, definetively I would like to involve more specilist to RIPE community since I do feel that there are are still few understanding of RIPE's actions in many organizations from my region. I was one of them until the past months when I started silently to follow the discussion. I feel that it is now my moment to act actively and this does not mean to be the enemy of the done, conversly, it is adding a new dynamic. For sure I will need time to learn and understand the key points of the group, but all the challenges I had in life, this is a new one. 3. *We should understand that there are a mix of qualities that can make for effective co-chairs, especially in the Coop-WG* I think I can offer a comprehensive point of view of the issues, contribute to the understanding of the different backgrounds and situations. Moreover, I do consider the research as a unique opportunity to enhance her research work across Latin America and to start an active network not only in the region but collaborate worldwide. I do have strong experience in tasks related to assist in the design, execution and analysis on different research project, write about different themes of IT and IG, coordinate mutlistakeholder, attend and speak in conferences related to governance and politics, being always updated with the current mission of international agencies which work with technology and teaching about IT from different points of view, including legal, technical and social aspects, teach about internet issues, of course including all the fields related to ICANN, IGF, ITU, and other organizations, relationships between domain names and commercial law, dispute resolutions, social developments among others and organize seminars within my Research Center to promote and study IG issues Finally, you can check out my whole profile here: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B15w3r3fVETcOHhJemRJSnIyeUk/view?usp=shari… ..... Kind regards, Analía Aspis

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For meeting attendees -- relevant BoF this evening
by Meredith Whittaker 26 May '16

26 May '16

[If you're not attending the RIPE meeting in person, you can stop reading now] Hi those at the meeting, I wanted to draw your attention to a BoF happening this evening that may be of interest. Corinne Cath, Oxford Researcher and repeat RIPE attendee (CCed), will be screening a short film that explores how Internet protocols and standards can be architected (or not) to promote Human Rights. - *What: *Movie Screening and Beer BOF: "Net of Rights" - *When: *6pm/17:00 this evening - *Where:* Tutorial Room (to the left of the main room, along the far-left wall across from the espresso cart) Clearly, this is a topic that falls right into the remit of cooperation, and the concomitant challenges of thinking through the social, political, and technical at once. I believe many of you will enjoy it. Oh, and THERE WILL BE FREE BEER. Thanks! Meredith -- Meredith Whittaker Open Research Lead Google NYC

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New mailing list format
by Meredith Whittaker 26 May '16

26 May '16

Hi all, Mihnea, CCed, approached me early to discuss the new RIPE Forum mailing list format. A test list, where you can see format and UX, is here: https://www.ripe.net/participate/mail/forum/ripe-forum-test More information is below. I am very happy with this format, and believe that implementation will increase the ease of communication on the list. However, before it's deployed, I want to make sure the community has a chance to weigh in. Please direct any questions and comments to Mihnea. Best, Meredith *More information on the new RIPE Forum design and deployment, from Mihnea: * Dear colleagues, There’s a new way to participate on the RIPE Working Group mailing lists! Introducing the RIPE Forum, a web-based interface for reading and sending emails on RIPE community mailing lists. We developed the RIPE Forum in-house based on feedback we received from members of the RIPE community who wanted the option to interact and share information in a more modern way. But it’s important to note that this new interface is completely optional – those who like using the established mailing list system can continue on as they always have, and won’t notice any difference. Several weeks ago the RIPE Forum was deployed on the RIPE Atlas mailing list as a pilot. The test was a success with no major issues detected and very positive comments were received from users. We have presented the results to the Working Group chairs and it was decided to deploy the RIPE Forum to all RIPE Working Group mailing lists. We invite you have a look yourself: https://www.ripe.net/participate/mail/forum/ We created a special mailing list for testing purposes, so that any conversations about the platform itself can be contained there without disrupting the regular flow of discussions on the Working Group mailing lists. Feel free to send test messages and try out the RIPE Forum on this special list. https://www.ripe.net/participate/mail/forum/ripe-forum-test If you’d like to learn more about how the forum works or the background behind the project, please take a look at this RIPE Labs article that was published for the pilot phase: https://labs.ripe.net/Members/marco_schmidt/introducing-the-ripe-forum The forum is still in "beta" status – there might be still some bugs and we are continuously working to improve things, so please keep that in mind while exploring the forum. You can give your feedback by clicking on the “Report a bug” button on the forum, or leave a comment on the above RIPE Labs article. We hope you’ll enjoy the RIPE Forum, and look forward to your feedback! -- Meredith Whittaker Open Research Lead Google NYC

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Vb: Re: On the Nature of WG Chairs...
by Maud.Karlberg＠vll.se 26 May '16

26 May '16

Hi! Can you please take me away from this sendlist? Maud Karlberg Vänliga hälsningar Maud Karlberg Informatikenheten By 5A, 2 tr Västerbottens läns landsting 901 85 Umeå 090-7854101 www.vll.se/informatik ----- Vidarebefordrat av Maud Karlberg/US/VLL/SE på 2016-05-26 15:34 ----- Från: Meredith Whittaker <meredithrachel(a)google.com> Till: Gordon Lennox <gordon.lennox.13(a)gmail.com> Kopia: Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet(a)heanet.ie>, "cooperation-wg(a)ripe.net" <cooperation-wg(a)ripe.net> Datum: 2016-05-26 15:04 Ärende: Re: [cooperation-wg] On the Nature of WG Chairs... Sänt av: "cooperation-wg" <cooperation-wg-bounces(a)ripe.net> Brian, this is an excellent point. The perfect should not be the enemy of the done, and we should understand that there are a mix of qualities that can make for effective co-chairs, especially in the Coop-WG. Discussion of what these qualities are is productive and welcome, of course. Best, Meredith On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Gordon Lennox <gordon.lennox.13(a)gmail.com > wrote: I generally agree with you. But I think we need to discuss "out-reach" more. Representing the WG in other fora has proved problematic in the past for obvious reasons. I also tend to think that in any case "out-reach" has too be something for the whole WG and not an additional task just for the co-chairs. Gordon On 26 May 2016 at 14:19, Brian Nisbet <brian.nisbet(a)heanet.ie> wrote: Afternoon, There has been a lot of discussion on list and at the session today about the "job requirements" of a WG Co-Chair, especially in relation to how well they know the community or how embedded they may be in it. There is precedent for situations where a WG's Co-Chairs may be a mix of people who are long standing members of the community and "subject matter experts" who are more recently arrived. Of course those who are more recently arrived do need to make a commitment to becoming suitably involved, but we need to be careful about perfect being the enemy of done. This is especially relevant, I think, in Co-operation where the whole point is outreach and bringing more stakeholder groups into the community, or at least into contact. I make no comment about the current candidates for Co-Chair(s) of the WG, it is more of a general observation that should be taken into account for the discussion. Thanks, Brian -- Brian Nisbet, Network Operations Manager HEAnet Limited, Ireland's Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin 1 Registered in Ireland, no 275301 tel: +35316609040 web: http://www.heanet.ie/ -- Meredith Whittaker Open Research Lead Google NYC

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On the Nature of WG Chairs...
by Brian Nisbet 26 May '16

26 May '16

Afternoon, There has been a lot of discussion on list and at the session today about the "job requirements" of a WG Co-Chair, especially in relation to how well they know the community or how embedded they may be in it. There is precedent for situations where a WG's Co-Chairs may be a mix of people who are long standing members of the community and "subject matter experts" who are more recently arrived. Of course those who are more recently arrived do need to make a commitment to becoming suitably involved, but we need to be careful about perfect being the enemy of done. This is especially relevant, I think, in Co-operation where the whole point is outreach and bringing more stakeholder groups into the community, or at least into contact. I make no comment about the current candidates for Co-Chair(s) of the WG, it is more of a general observation that should be taken into account for the discussion. Thanks, Brian -- Brian Nisbet, Network Operations Manager HEAnet Limited, Ireland's Education and Research Network 1st Floor, 5 George's Dock, IFSC, Dublin 1 Registered in Ireland, no 275301 tel: +35316609040 web: http://www.heanet.ie/

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Status on co-chairs process?
by Gordon Lennox 26 May '16

26 May '16

Thanks again to Meredith for an interesting agenda this morning. The end though was slightly rushed and we ran quite late so it is good that that the discussion can continue on the list. We obviously did not have the time this topic required during the session. I think we now need two discussions: one about the WG itself and one about the co-chairs. They are linked. But the one about the WG is and will be ongoing. I will focus here on the co-chairs and in particular the process. I still think though that we should keep with published the process. This is where I think we are: * the chair requests candidates. Done. * there is a period of about two weeks when names can be put forward. On-going? I think though we are coming towards the end of that period. I think we ought to be a little bit flexible on when that period actually comes to and end given how the process kicked-off. But I presume that it will end this weekend? ** the chair then announces the final list of candidates. ** there is a another period of about two weeks when the WG can have a conversation about particular requirements and with the candidates. ** the chair announces the consensus. I see no need to rush this any faster. Do people agree? I would hope though that in the future we might stretch the time-scales a little - take the published time-lines as an indicative baseline rather than binding formal constraint - and take a more relaxed approach. Gordon

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Chairs of this wg
by Patrik Fältström 26 May '16

26 May '16

All, I have been following the discussion about the appointment of chair (I am nervous over use of the word "election") of this WG and think about what features I would like to see on a new chair. I must admit I think it is important the individuals being chairs are active in the RIPE community as chairs as a collective have a responsibility in the RIPE PDP. I further think at least one chair should be relatively plugged in and active in the general policy development process in the RIPE region (not only EU). And because of this I must say I am still looking for strong(er) candidates than the ones at the moment have announced their availability. I do understand Meredith want a co-chair given I not only initiated this wg, but also was one of the co-chairs for a couple of years. One do not want to be alone. But, we should appoint the correct people because they are the correct people, and not because we must have two co-chairs. I because of this would like to see more candidates before I am prepared on saying whether I think one of the today available persons include the one(s) I would like to see as co-chair(s). And as a result of this, I request the point on the agenda be to discuss the appointment process, requirements etc but maybe not the actual appointment. Patrik

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Choosing chairs
by Gordon Lennox 25 May '16

25 May '16

In advance of any discussion we will have on the choice of new co-chairs I have looked again at the process as drafted by Meredith. I still think it is OK. It might be word-smithed a little in the future, not to change the ideas but to make it a little bit more robust. But that is not urgent. And anyway I don’t think anyone in the community is going to start counting commas. Looking at what is going on elsewhere it was nice to see that at least one other WG adopted Meredith’s text! But looking wider I see words like elections, consensus, decisions. I don’t think there is conflict. But here is my take. We have tended to avoid elections as we don’t have a nice list of people who are eligible to vote and anyway the folk active on mailing lists are also important. We tend to go instead for consensus. But maybe to point out the obvious somebody has to decide that there is consensus. That decision is perhaps the most important job of a chair / co-chair. And if they ever get it wrong people ought to make that clear and the conversation can then continue. That is basically again what Meredith proposed. Getting consensus can though take time. So a quick “show of hands” can be useful for certain quick decisions. But maybe not for the choice of WG chairs. There are though other situations where we vote - obviously when we have a list of those eligible to vote but also where there is no chair to make the call. That is the situation we will have when we decide on the RIPE chair. So consensus within the WG but voting at the level of RIPE? And so no conflict? Gordon

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European Commission proposes new e-commerce rules
by Gordon Lennox 25 May '16

25 May '16

Please look at full press release for some more details. Snippets follow: Commission proposes new e-commerce rules to help consumers and companies reap full benefit of Single Market - Brussels, 25 May 2016 The European Commission today tabled a package of measures to allow consumers and companies to buy and sell products and services online more easily and confidently across the EU. Today’s e-commerce package is composed of: • A legislative proposal to address unjustified geoblocking and other forms of discrimination on the grounds of nationality, residence or establishment; • A legislative proposal on cross-border parcel delivery services to increase the transparency of prices and improve regulatory oversight; • A legislative proposal to strengthen enforcement of consumers' rights and guidance to clarify, among others, what qualifies as an unfair commercial practice in the digital world. The proposed revision of the Consumer Protection Cooperation Regulation will give more powers to national authorities to better enforce consumer rights. They will be able to: • check if websites geo-block consumers or offer after-sales conditions not respecting EU rules (e.g. withdrawal rights); • order the immediate take-down of websites hosting scams; • request information from domain registrars and banks to detect the identity of the responsible trader. http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-16-1887_en.htm

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Commission updates EU audiovisual rules and presents targeted approach to online platforms
by Gordon Lennox 25 May '16

25 May '16

Please look at the press release for more details. Snippets follow: Commission updates EU audiovisual rules and presents targeted approach to online platforms - Brussels, 25 May 2016 The European Commission today proposed an update of EU audiovisual rules to create a fairer environment for all players, promote European films, protect children and tackle hate speech better. This proposal also reflects a new approach to online platforms, addressing challenges in different areas. As part of its Digital Single Market strategy, today the Commission presented an updated Audiovisual Media Services Directive (AVMSD); the common rules which have governed audiovisual media, ensured cultural diversity and the free circulation of content in the EU for almost 30 years. Nowadays viewers do not only watch video content via their TV channels but also increasingly via video-on-demand services (such as Netflix and MUBI) and video-sharing platforms (such as YouTube and Dailymotion). This is why the Commission wants to achieve a better balance of the rules which today apply to traditional broadcasters, video-on-demand providers and video-sharing platforms, especially when it comes to protecting children. The revised AVMSD also strengthens the promotion of European cultural diversity, ensures the independence of audiovisual regulators and gives more flexibility to broadcasters over advertising. This proposal reflects the new approach of the Commission towards online platforms - like online marketplaces, search engines, payment systems, social media, video and content-sharing sites. Since the launch of the Digital Single Market strategy in May 2015, the Commission has undertaken a comprehensive assessment of the social and economic role of these new players. Today the Commission concluded that a 'one-size-fits-all' approach was not appropriate for consumers to benefit from the opportunities and for the rules to meet the different challenges posed by the very diverse types of online platforms. Based on this approach, the Commission will look at each area where it can act, from telecoms to copyright rules, to address any specific problems in a future-proof way for all market players. http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_IP-16-1873_en.htm

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WTSA
by Patrik Fältström 24 May '16

24 May '16

Hi, As we are moving into a new ITU planning cycle, with specifically WTSA later during 2016 that sets the Study Groups, it is important that we all decide what organization we would like to deal with what issues. To help with this preparatory work ISOC have created this document that I think makes it quite clear what issues might come up: <http://www.internetsociety.org/doc/itu-world-telecommunication-standardizat…> One of the main reasons I think this is important is that we have a terrible experience when ITU-T started to discuss MPLS related issues, something already dealt with in the IETF and we can not have the same overlap between organizations again. Because of this, now is the time to ensure ITU-T do not bring up issues already dealt with in other organizations, and in a similar way we should not redo in non-ITU-T environments things dealt with in ITU-T. I for example think it is of ultimate importance that any IP address policy (of any shape or form) is deal with in the RIRs. And not in any ITU-T study group. And I ask whether this WG is where coordination in the RIPE Community can take place? Patrik

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Update on EU Platform Regulation
by Gordon Lennox 23 May '16

23 May '16

>From Politico: *14 GOVERNMENTS WRITE TO REJECT ‘ONE-SIZE-FITS-ALL’ PLATFORM REGULATION: * The governments believe an EU regulation of Internet platform would “hamper innovation.” They would like to see more ambitious digital single market proposals from the Commission, and a “positive approach.” The U.K. and Poland head the list of signatories. Germany, France, Italy, Spain did not join. http://politi.co/1NEYNKN <http://politico.us8.list-manage.com/track/click?u=e26c1a1c392386a968d02fdbc…>

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eIDs
by Gordon Lennox 13 May '16

13 May '16

We had a presentation on EU eIDs at Dublin if I remember well. Then we had the (still unofficial) draft Communication on platforms - as previously mentioned on the list - where eIDs are again mentioned. Now here is the UK take: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/introducing-govuk-verify/introdu… If anyone has information from their country on this it might be nice to share. (I am not sure why I wrote “nice” there.) :-) Gordon

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Call for co-chair nominations
by Meredith Whittaker 12 May '16

12 May '16

This is the thread where I, as Chair, officially call for Coop-WG co-chair nominees to identify yourselves, and provide a bit of background about who you are and why you'd bring energy and great content to the Coop-WG. Per the process, we'll leave this open for two weeks. I encourage discussion, questions, and and other productive activity that helps you get to know the nominees on this thread. Thanks, Meredith -- currently the sole Coop-WG Chair -- Meredith Whittaker Open Research Lead Google NYC

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New on RIPE Labs: The Internet for Things
by Mirjam Kuehne 11 May '16

11 May '16

Dear colleagues, Please see this new RIPE Labs article by Byron Ellacott, Senior Software Architect at APNIC: The Internet of Things without the Internet is just things, and we’ve had things since the first caveman used a pointy stick to draw on a wall. What then does the Internet bring to things to justify a capital T? https://labs.ripe.net/Members/mirjam/the-internet-for-things?pk_campaign=la… Kind regards, Mirjam Kuehne RIPE NCC

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Fwd: [NRO-IANAXFER] Invitation to the CRISP call 10th May UTC1300 Fwd: Re: [CRISP-TEAM] Future Status of the CRISP Team [Feedback: by 5/12]
by Nurani Nimpuno 10 May '16

10 May '16

FYI. (Apologies for the very late notice.) Nurani > Begin forwarded message: > > From: Izumi Okutani <izumi(a)nic.ad.jp> > Subject: [NRO-IANAXFER] Invitation to the CRISP call 10th May UTC1300 Fwd: Re: [CRISP-TEAM] Future Status of the CRISP Team [Feedback: by 5/12] > Date: 10 maj 2016 10:43:07 CEST > To: "ianaxfer(a)nro.net" <ianaxfer(a)nro.net> > > Dear Colleagues, > > > FYI. Anyone is welcome to attend the coming call as an observer as usual. > > > Izumi > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: Re: [CRISP-TEAM] Future Status of the CRISP Team [Feedback: by 5/12] > Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 17:07:09 -0400 > From: German Valdez <german(a)nro.net> > To: Izumi Okutani <izumi(a)nic.ad.jp> > CC: crisp(a)nro.net > > Dear CRISP Team > > Please find the webex details below > > Unfortunately I’ll be in transit by the time of the call. I’ll ask ARIN staff to support the meeting. > > Regards > > German > > > CRISP Meeting > Tuesday, May 10, 2016 > 1:00 pm | Greenwich Time (Reykjavik, GMT) | 1 hr > Join WebEx meeting > https://ripencc.webex.com/ripencc/j.php?MTID=m997f5f40cb1b5a93229a05efc0a19… > Meeting number: 704 589 239 > Meeting password: crisp > Join by phone > 0800-051-3810 Call-in toll-free number (UK) > +44-203-478-5289 Call-in toll number (UK) > Access code: 704 589 239 > Global call-in numbers | Toll-free calling restrictions > https://ripencc.webex.com/ripencc/globalcallin.php?serviceType=MC&ED=461171… > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ianaxfer mailing list > ianaxfer(a)nro.net > https://www.nro.net/mailman/listinfo/ianaxfer

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Co-Chair nominations, and call for interested parties
by Meredith Whittaker 05 May '16

05 May '16

Hi Co-op WG, Taking this time to announce two candidates for co-chair (since we already have two), and to ask that others interested *announce themselves on this list before May 18*. In keeping with the protocol <https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/coop/cooperation-wg-chair-selectio…> for electing new Coop-WG Chairs. Our goal is to increase the number of chairs from one (me) to ideally three -- coming from different sectors and bringing varying experiences. - *Collin Anderson* -- M-Lab Network Researcher Collin has been ably doing the job of co-Chair for a year and a half now, working alongside me to help structure WG sessions, recruit speakers, and additionally contributing to the RIPE community through research collaborations, and beyond. He is well known and respected in the policy community as well as the network research community, and is frequently consulted by the FCC, European Commission, and similar governmental bodies on network measurement and management best practices. I'm delighted that I've finally been able to convince him to run for the position officially. - *Achilleas Kemos* -- European Commission Policy and Project Officer Achilleas Kemos works with the European Commission's Unit dealing with Network technologies, with a particular focus on standardisation activities. He has been Commission representative in the key technical bodies related to Internet Protocol (IP) standards issues and IP address allocation policies (IETF and RIPE respectively) since 2012, bridging policy considerations with technology issues. Thanks, Meredith Coop-WG Chair -- Meredith Whittaker Open Research Lead Google NYC

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Co-Chair Nominations Introduction (Anderson)
by Collin Anderson 05 May '16

05 May '16

Hi Cooperation WG community – I'm Collin Anderson, an independent network researcher based out of Washington, D.C. I had reached out to Meredith about the possibility of more active participation previously but had suspected this introduction would arise in Copenhagen, so I apologize then for not reaching out through the list first to make a case for myself. I have attended the last four RIPE Meetings, presented at two of those meetings in the Coop WG [1][2], been a supportive resource in the planning of three of those sessions, and have an earlier history of interacting with the RIPE Atlas platform in pursuit of public interest issues [3]. Those presentations and papers are representative of my background and involvements (cda.io) – the nexus of the Internet, its architecture and public policy, with an interest in accessibility and security. A substantial portion of my time is dedicated to Measurement Lab, however, I also collaborate with a broader range of NGOs and academic institutions on producing research on these issues in Europe and the United States. Hence Coop WG is interesting to me because it is where all of the issues that RIPE maintains expertise in comes into more uncertain questions of external application (from my perspective at least). Outside of this, the question of how I would make an informative and generative resource for the RIPE community is particularly relevant. I'm specifically interested in the Coop WG being a mechanism of inclusion for local communities – by the virtue of the rotation of the meetings across the region there is an opportunity to bring in representatives of the NGO and public sector that wouldn't otherwise have the means or awareness to come to RIPE. So more local presence outside of generous sponsorships of much needed coffee baristas. My research has always attempted to support the pairing of technical expertise with local impact and local communities that wouldn't otherwise have access to those resources, and I believe that this principle would be a mechanism for Coop WG to fulfill its mission. So, my ambition would be to support conversations like the eID thread that seems to be the most active discussion on Coop-WG in a year, but also to bring in people that wouldn't otherwise have access to this community – but who should interact and will be novel to form connections with. I would be a generative resource because I happen to have some of these relationships by virtue of my mode of operation professionally, but also because I am personally motivated toward that objective. I would be happy to answer any questions here (on-thread or off-thread) or in Denmark in a couple of weeks, and my apologies again for the misstep. Cordially, Collin Anderson [1] https://ripe69.ripe.net/archives/video/10079/ [2] https://ripe71.ripe.net/archives/video/1176/ [3] https://www.usenix.org/conference/foci14/workshop-program/presentation/ande…

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Elephants and eIDs
by Gordon Lennox 02 May '16

02 May '16

Some people here may remember the presentation on eIDs at a previous RIPE meeting. https://labs.ripe.net/Members/chrisb/engaging-with-eu-legislative-process A draft Commission document which mentions eIDs has recently been “leaked”. http://www.politico.eu/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Platforms-Communication.p… See in particular the top of page 12. I understand from folk within the bubble (the Brussels/EU bubble) that this kind of thing is now seen as a way of testing the reaction of experts, of those really interested, before proceeding. So any prompt reaction, and this could be individual reactions rather than the reactions of organisations, may be useful. Indeed any reaction now may more useful than when the Commission has taken a formal position on the proposal and when the services are naturally obliged to defend it. This item from The Register - http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/04/29/eu_login_youtube_national_id_card/ - would suggest that one person to write to is the Estonian Commissioner. Regards, Gordon

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