On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Richard Hill <rhill@hill-a.ch> wrote:

Thanks for this.

So, to be clear, the proposal is that RIPE NCC will not prepare a specific
response to the ICG RFP, rather it will delegate to CRISP the task of
preparing a draft response.

Same with the AFRINIC region and i think will applies to other RIRs

The draft prepared by CRISP will be posted to this mailing list for
discussion and comments.

Is that correct?

This is also how i understood it. However i would expect that mailing list to be the NRO list which is more global. Although noting prevents cross-posting.

If yes, then I would propose that RIPE NCC request CRISP to take into
account, when preparing the draft response, all the comments that have been
posted to date to this mailing list.

Well if you ask me i did say that no major specific discussion/proposal has really happened ;) also it can be unrealistic to task a team yet to be formed to look at previous comments. While they may do that, i think when the team get formed, the 2 RIPE members should find a way of collecting comments from its region as same will be done in other regions as well.

Cheers!

Thanks and best,
Richard

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chris Buckridge [mailto:chrisb@ripe.net]
> Sent: mercredi, 22. octobre 2014 09:40
> To: rhill@hill-a.ch
> Cc: Hans Petter Holen; cooperation-wg@ripe.net
> Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] Request for clarification of the process
>
>

> Dear Richard, all,
>
> Attempting a more specific answer to that question:
>
> According to the existing proposal [which should not be regarded
> as final], the RIPE community will not prepare a specific
> response to the Request for Proposals (RFP) produced by the IANA
> Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG).
>
> [The RFP text is available at:
> https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/rfp-iana-stewardship-0
> 8sep14-en.pdf]
>
> The current "draft proposal" takes the approach of a higher-level
> RIPE community position, specifying the mechanism that the
> community wishes to see replace the existing NTIA agreement. The
> current APNIC community draft proposal is based on a similar approach.
>
> To avoid confusion, it may make more sense to refer to this
> document as a draft set of principles, but it is anticipated that
> this text will be the output of the RIPE community discussion.
>
> The ICG RFP lays out a very specific template for the proposals
> that the ICG expects to receive, and the CRISP team can be
> expected to produce a proposal based on this template. There is
> no requirement that the individual RIR communities use this
> template, and consolidating five lengthy, detailed proposals (as
> the RFP template would produce) may pose more of a challenge for
> the CRISP team than drawing together five expressions of
> priorities and preferred mechanisms to develop a single proposal,
> based on the RFP template.
>
> As always, all of the assumptions here are open for discussion in
> this working group.
>
> Best regards,
> Chris
>
>
> On 22 Oct 2014, at 16:31, Richard Hill <rhill@hill-a.ch> wrote:
>
> > Dear Hans Petter,
> >
> > Thank you for this, it is helpful.
> >
> > But the links you provide refer to the NRO process, whereas my
> question was specifically about the RIPE NCC process. That is,
> what process will RIPE NCC use to prepare its input to CRISP.
> >
> > Thanks again and best,
> > Richard
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: cooperation-wg-bounces@ripe.net
[mailto:cooperation-wg-bounces@ripe.net]On Behalf Of Hans Petter Holen
> Sent: mercredi, 22. octobre 2014 01:42
> To: cooperation-wg@ripe.net
> Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] Request for clarification of the process
>
> On 20.10.14 21:37, Richard Hill wrote:
>> So my question is actually "What process will be used by RIPE to prepare
a
>> response to the ICG's RFP? Will that response be drafted by the RIPE NCC
>> staff? And will it be posted to this list for comment before it is
>> submitted to CRIP?"
>>
> I think some of the answer may be found in
>
https://www.nro.net/news/iana-stewardship-consolidated-rir-iana-stewardship-
proposal-team
>
> and on
>
>
https://www.nro.net/nro-and-internet-governance/iana-oversight/consolidated-
rir-iana-stewardship-proposal-team-crisp-team
>
> It does say community members and staff - so I do not read that only staff
will be involved.
>
> I also read that the work will be done on a public mailing-list and that
the meetings will be open.
>
>
> --
> Hans Petter Holen
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> hph@oslo.net | http://hph.oslo.net
>
>
>

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