On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 8:51 AM, Richard Hill <rhill@hill-a.ch> wrote:
Thanks for this.
So, to be clear, the proposal is that RIPE NCC will not prepare a specific response to the ICG RFP, rather it will delegate to CRISP the task of preparing a draft response.
Same with the AFRINIC region and i think will applies to other RIRs
The draft prepared by CRISP will be posted to this mailing list for discussion and comments.
Is that correct?
This is also how i understood it. However i would expect that mailing list
If yes, then I would propose that RIPE NCC request CRISP to take into account, when preparing the draft response, all the comments that have been posted to date to this mailing list.
Well if you ask me i did say that no major specific discussion/proposal has really happened ;) also it can be unrealistic to task a team yet to be
to be the NRO list which is more global. Although noting prevents cross-posting. formed to look at previous comments. While they may do that, i think when the team get formed, the 2 RIPE members should find a way of collecting comments from its region as same will be done in other regions as well. Cheers!
Thanks and best, Richard
-----Original Message----- From: Chris Buckridge [mailto:chrisb@ripe.net] Sent: mercredi, 22. octobre 2014 09:40 To: rhill@hill-a.ch Cc: Hans Petter Holen; cooperation-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] Request for clarification of the process
Dear Richard, all,
Attempting a more specific answer to that question:
According to the existing proposal [which should not be regarded as final], the RIPE community will not prepare a specific response to the Request for Proposals (RFP) produced by the IANA Stewardship Transition Coordination Group (ICG).
[The RFP text is available at: https://www.icann.org/en/system/files/files/rfp-iana-stewardship-0 8sep14-en.pdf]
The current "draft proposal" takes the approach of a higher-level RIPE community position, specifying the mechanism that the community wishes to see replace the existing NTIA agreement. The current APNIC community draft proposal is based on a similar approach.
To avoid confusion, it may make more sense to refer to this document as a draft set of principles, but it is anticipated that this text will be the output of the RIPE community discussion.
The ICG RFP lays out a very specific template for the proposals that the ICG expects to receive, and the CRISP team can be expected to produce a proposal based on this template. There is no requirement that the individual RIR communities use this template, and consolidating five lengthy, detailed proposals (as the RFP template would produce) may pose more of a challenge for the CRISP team than drawing together five expressions of priorities and preferred mechanisms to develop a single proposal, based on the RFP template.
As always, all of the assumptions here are open for discussion in this working group.
Best regards, Chris
On 22 Oct 2014, at 16:31, Richard Hill <rhill@hill-a.ch> wrote:
Dear Hans Petter,
Thank you for this, it is helpful.
But the links you provide refer to the NRO process, whereas my question was specifically about the RIPE NCC process. That is, what process will RIPE NCC use to prepare its input to CRISP.
Thanks again and best, Richard -----Original Message----- From: cooperation-wg-bounces@ripe.net [mailto:cooperation-wg-bounces@ripe.net]On Behalf Of Hans Petter Holen Sent: mercredi, 22. octobre 2014 01:42 To: cooperation-wg@ripe.net Subject: Re: [cooperation-wg] Request for clarification of the process
On 20.10.14 21:37, Richard Hill wrote:
So my question is actually "What process will be used by RIPE to prepare a response to the ICG's RFP? Will that response be drafted by the RIPE NCC staff? And will it be posted to this list for comment before it is submitted to CRIP?"
I think some of the answer may be found in
https://www.nro.net/news/iana-stewardship-consolidated-rir-iana-stewardship- proposal-team
and on
https://www.nro.net/nro-and-internet-governance/iana-oversight/consolidated- rir-iana-stewardship-proposal-team-crisp-team
It does say community members and staff - so I do not read that only
staff will be involved.
I also read that the work will be done on a public mailing-list and that
the meetings will be open.
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