Fwd: [NRO-IANAXFER] Articles on the US Senate Hearing
FYI. Nurani
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From: Izumi Okutani <izumi@nic.ad.jp> Subject: [NRO-IANAXFER] Articles on the US Senate Hearing Date: 15 september 2016 06:10:30 CEST To: "ianaxfer@nro.net" <ianaxfer@nro.net>
FYI.
Several articles published after the Hearing conducted by the US Senate Committee on Judiciary on 14th September, Chaired by Ted Cruz. You can also see the video and statements of each panelist at the Hearing from the website.
Protecting Internet Freedom: Implications of Ending U.S. Oversight of the Internet http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/meetings/protecting-internet-freedom-implica...
* Politifact: Ted Cruz incorrect about Obama giving control of internet to UN-like body <http://www.politifact.com/texas/statements/2016/sep/14/ted-cruz/ted-cruz-incorrect-about-obama-giving-control-inte/> * Reuters: Blocking Internet oversight transition a 'gift to Russia': Obama administration <http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-cyber-congress-idUSKCN11K26F> * Dallas Morning News: Cruz fights to keep internet domains under U.S. control as critics decry move as misguided <http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/headlines/20160914-cruz-says-he-s-fighting-for-internet-freedom-critics-warn-he-ll-help-overseas-regimes.ece> * Financial Times: Republicans lash out at US plan to cede Internet control <https://www.ft.com/content/9ac0cfe4-7a97-11e6-ae24-f193b105145e>(subcribers only) * Politico: Cruz: Obama officials could face jail for internet ‘handover’<http://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/ted-cruz-internet-domain-larry-strickling-228153> White House: Cruz stand on ICANN 'ironic' <https://www.politicopro.com/tech/whiteboard/2016/09/josh-earnest-cruz-stand-on-icann-ironic-077064>(subcribers only)
Izumi Okutani
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On 15-09-16 11:00, Nurani Nimpuno wrote:
FYI.
Thanks, Nurani - it has become a veritable soap opera... Julf
On 15 Sep 2016, at 14:44, Johan Helsingius <julf@julf.com> wrote:
it has become a veritable soap opera...
I thought it always was a soap opera. FWIW I watched yesterday’s hearing. [Yes, I need to get out more.] Cruz’s conduct was disgraceful and shameless. His whatabootery was off the scale. Strickling and Marby were asked questions equivalent to “is it true you’ve stopped battering your wife?”. They carefully avoided rising to his bait. Cruz’s sock puppets were asked “do you agree it will be bad if Russia, Iran and China get control of the Internet?”. Cruz threatened NTIA staff and accused them of breaking the law. Elected politicians simply shouldn’t attack blameless civil servants like that and certainly not in public. He was pursuing his own flawed agenda and ignored anything that contradicted that. His starting assumption is/was remarkable: USG is compelled to uphold the US First Amendment (free speech) and that somehow this extends to ICANN because of the IANA contract with NTIA. Much as it pains me to say this, Kieren’s article in The Register absolutely nails it: http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/09/14/ted_cruz_in_wrongheaded_internet_cru...
Jim,
FWIW I watched yesterday’s hearing.
I couldn't stomach all of it, I had to save some of it for later. But if you thought that was bad, you clearly haven't been following #ICANN on twitter for the last week or so... :-/ Julf
On 15 Sep 2016, at 15:45, Johan Helsingius <julf@julf.com> wrote:
But if you thought that was bad, you clearly haven't been following #ICANN on twitter for the last week or so... :-/
Obviously. What’s twitter?
On 15 Sep 2016, at 16:06, Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com> wrote:
On 15 Sep 2016, at 14:44, Johan Helsingius <julf@julf.com> wrote:
it has become a veritable soap opera...
I thought it always was a soap opera.
FWIW I watched yesterday’s hearing. [Yes, I need to get out more.] Cruz’s conduct was disgraceful and shameless. His whatabootery was off the scale.
Strickling and Marby were asked questions equivalent to “is it true you’ve stopped battering your wife?”. They carefully avoided rising to his bait. Cruz’s sock puppets were asked “do you agree it will be bad if Russia, Iran and China get control of the Internet?”. Cruz threatened NTIA staff and accused them of breaking the law. Elected politicians simply shouldn’t attack blameless civil servants like that and certainly not in public.
Agreed. I was glad to see that they didn't get sucked into trying to answer some of those rather absurd questions.
He was pursuing his own flawed agenda and ignored anything that contradicted that. His starting assumption is/was remarkable: USG is compelled to uphold the US First Amendment (free speech) and that somehow this extends to ICANN because of the IANA contract with NTIA.
Indeed. I must at that I thought both Strickling and DelBianco were brilliant. I have never seen Strickling quite so animated. Their explanations were clear and straightforward and very eloquent. But clear explanation of the facts only works on people who are interested in understanding the facts of course. Let's hope reason prevails. :)
Much as it pains me to say this, Kieren’s article in The Register absolutely nails it:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/09/14/ted_cruz_in_wrongheaded_internet_cru...
I also share your pain. :) Nurani
To be completely frank, as a US citizen living in Europe, I could not be more disgusted with Cruz's behavior. Even though I try to stay as politically neutral as possible, I am more than happy to express my feelings about this because I can and should criticize someone misrepresenting my passport country and spreading false information as he does. I'm sincerely sorry you have to witness this spectacle. It is beyond embarrassing. -Michael On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Nurani Nimpuno <nurani@netnod.se> wrote:
On 15 Sep 2016, at 16:06, Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com> wrote:
On 15 Sep 2016, at 14:44, Johan Helsingius <julf@julf.com> wrote:
it has become a veritable soap opera...
I thought it always was a soap opera.
FWIW I watched yesterday’s hearing. [Yes, I need to get out more.] Cruz’s conduct was disgraceful and shameless. His whatabootery was off the scale.
Strickling and Marby were asked questions equivalent to “is it true you’ve stopped battering your wife?”. They carefully avoided rising to his bait. Cruz’s sock puppets were asked “do you agree it will be bad if Russia, Iran and China get control of the Internet?”. Cruz threatened NTIA staff and accused them of breaking the law. Elected politicians simply shouldn’t attack blameless civil servants like that and certainly not in public.
Agreed. I was glad to see that they didn't get sucked into trying to answer some of those rather absurd questions.
He was pursuing his own flawed agenda and ignored anything that contradicted that. His starting assumption is/was remarkable: USG is compelled to uphold the US First Amendment (free speech) and that somehow this extends to ICANN because of the IANA contract with NTIA.
Indeed. I must at that I thought both Strickling and DelBianco were brilliant. I have never seen Strickling quite so animated.
Their explanations were clear and straightforward and very eloquent. But clear explanation of the facts only works on people who are interested in understanding the facts of course. Let's hope reason prevails. :)
Much as it pains me to say this, Kieren’s article in The Register absolutely nails it:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/09/14/ted_cruz_in_wronghea ded_internet_crusade/
I also share your pain. :)
Nurani
...and I used to think "House of Cards" was fiction. Kindest regards, Olivier On 16/09/2016 10:58, Michael Oghia wrote:
To be completely frank, as a US citizen living in Europe, I could not be more disgusted with Cruz's behavior. Even though I try to stay as politically neutral as possible, I am more than happy to express my feelings about this because I can and should criticize someone misrepresenting my passport country and spreading false information as he does.
I'm sincerely sorry you have to witness this spectacle. It is beyond embarrassing.
-Michael
On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Nurani Nimpuno <nurani@netnod.se <mailto:nurani@netnod.se>> wrote:
> On 15 Sep 2016, at 16:06, Jim Reid <jim@rfc1035.com <mailto:jim@rfc1035.com>> wrote: > > >> On 15 Sep 2016, at 14:44, Johan Helsingius <julf@julf.com <mailto:julf@julf.com>> wrote: >> >> it has become a veritable soap opera... > > I thought it always was a soap opera. > > FWIW I watched yesterday’s hearing. [Yes, I need to get out more.] Cruz’s conduct was disgraceful and shameless. His whatabootery was off the scale. > > Strickling and Marby were asked questions equivalent to “is it true you’ve stopped battering your wife?”. They carefully avoided rising to his bait. Cruz’s sock puppets were asked “do you agree it will be bad if Russia, Iran and China get control of the Internet?”. Cruz threatened NTIA staff and accused them of breaking the law. Elected politicians simply shouldn’t attack blameless civil servants like that and certainly not in public.
Agreed. I was glad to see that they didn't get sucked into trying to answer some of those rather absurd questions.
> He was pursuing his own flawed agenda and ignored anything that contradicted that. His starting assumption is/was remarkable: USG is compelled to uphold the US First Amendment (free speech) and that somehow this extends to ICANN because of the IANA contract with NTIA.
Indeed. I must at that I thought both Strickling and DelBianco were brilliant. I have never seen Strickling quite so animated.
Their explanations were clear and straightforward and very eloquent. But clear explanation of the facts only works on people who are interested in understanding the facts of course. Let's hope reason prevails. :)
> Much as it pains me to say this, Kieren’s article in The Register absolutely nails it: > > http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/09/14/ted_cruz_in_wrongheaded_internet_cru... <http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/09/14/ted_cruz_in_wrongheaded_internet_crusade/>
I also share your pain. :)
Nurani
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