This is sort of just for the record - because we are too late! There was another consultation: https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/news/targeted-consultation-co-... A short time-scale to respond and a a "targeted" consultation. So I guess they did not want to hear from individual experts and civil society. Which is a pity given that network neutrality is of interest to very many people and that much of the 5G community is clearly and publicly against network neutrality. They are arguing for the neutrality legislation to be relaxed and at the same time for public subsidies. Gordon
On 20 Jul 2016, at 09:27, Gordon Lennox <gordon.lennox.13@gmail.com> wrote:
There was another consultation:
https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/news/targeted-consultation-co-...
A short time-scale to respond and a a "targeted" consultation. So I guess they did not want to hear from individual experts and civil society.
Thanks for this Gordon. If this consultation didn't follow the rules (whatever they might be) or was engineered to only elicit responses from specific sectors, what can this WG or individual members of this WG do about that? How? Do we contact our MEPs or write to a Commissioner or complain to our governments/regulators? All of these things? Anything else?
Jim, I think the consultation "followed the rules". But were the rules chosen fully appropriate? I am not sure. But neither am I clear on a way forward. I guess they don't want a few hundred thousand responses. I doubt they could even handle that amount of data. But if you look how the targeted industries are lobbying - I guess enough people have read the articles, etc. - then the argument that they should be excused to an extent from the network neutrality AND that they should get public funding is strange. A lot of people were clearly interested in what Berec was doing. So how do they get involved here? Anyway you can always write to the appropriate Commissioner and/or your MEP and/or you local regulator. Gordon
Gordon Lennox writes:
https://ec.europa.eu/digital-single-market/en/news/targeted-consultation-co-...
A short time-scale to respond and a a "targeted" consultation. So I guess they did not want to hear from individual experts and civil society.
Which is a pity given that network neutrality is of interest to very many people and that much of the 5G community is clearly and publicly against network neutrality. They are arguing for the neutrality legislation to be relaxed and at the same time for public subsidies.
Eh? I read: Targeted stakeholders This consultation targets primarily industry representatives, in particular: from the Telecom/ICT sector from any sector that perceives benefits from connectivity to improve its process, products or services However, other organisations or individuals are welcome to contribute if they feel appropriate. Note the last sentence. Looks to me an invitation to react even when your are not a target. Or is there something I don't understand here and it is actually some EC double speak. jaap
Jaap, In theory you are right: individuals can respond. But I would suggest that there are practical hurdles to that. The short timescale. The fact that most people here did not pick up on it - they were not targeted? The need for an ECAS account, etc. The targeted industries on the other hand have obviously been the loop for some time. Gordon
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