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RIPE NCC Network Maintenance Wednesday 23 May 1700 - 1900 UTC/GMT - COMPLETED
by Mark Guz 24 May '07

24 May '07

Dear Colleagues, The above mentioned maintenance was preformed successfully and within the specified maintenance window. If you have any questions about this, please e-mail ops(a)ripe.net Regards Mark Guz Senior Engineer Operations Dept RIPE NCC

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webupdates.pm
by Michael Theurl 24 May '07

24 May '07

Hello DB-WG, i need to do some changes in the Webupdates.pm can you give me a hint ? ..if i create a new "inetnum" object via the webupdate.pl i got this template to fill my data into. But now i need a special field called "assigned". Is there a way to put this field into the inetnum template ? ...i was searching in the Webupdates.pm for an array that holds all the "Add New Field" fields, but i didnt find someone. hopefully you can give me some tips where i can add this field. best regards Michael

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RIPE NCC Network Maintenance Wednesday 23 May 1700 - 1900 UTC/GMT
by Mark Guz 21 May '07

21 May '07

Dear Colleagues, Between 17:00 and 19:00 (UTC) on Wednesday, 23 May 2007, the RIPE NCC will carry out planned maintenance work on our core network infrastructure. During this period all RIPE NCC services will suffer intermittent interruptions We apologise for any inconvenience that this may cause. If you have any questions about this, please e-mail ops(a)ripe.net Regards Mark Guz Senior Engineer Operations Dept RIPE NCC

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Announcement Routing Registry Training Courses
by Rumy Kanis 21 May '07

21 May '07

[Apologies for duplicate e-mails] Dear Colleagues The RIPE NCC Training Services Department invites you to register for one of our upcoming Routing Registry Training Courses: Date: Friday 27 July 2007 Time: 09:00 - 17:00 Location: Amsterdam, Netherlands AND Date: Friday 17 August 2007 Time: 09:00 - 17:00 Location: Oslo, Norway AND Date: Friday 31 August 2007 Time: 09:00 - 17:00 Location: Berlin, Germany AND Date: Thursday 6 September 2007 Time: 09:00 - 17:00 Location: Nottingham, United Kingdom AND Date: Friday 14 September 2007 Time: 09:00 - 17:00 Location: Lisbon, Portugal AND Date: Friday 28 September 2007 Time: 09:00 - 17:00 Location: Tbilisi, Georgia AND Date: Monday 3 December 2007 Time: 09:00 - 17:00 Location: Barcelona, Spain Hosted by: CESCA: http://www.cesca.es/en/ The main objective of the "Routing Registry Training Course" is to familiarise the LIRs with the features of the Routing Registry, while introducing the relevant tools and services of the RIPE NCC. The course also offers practical exercises. OVERVIEW OF TOPICS COVERED IN THE COURSE: - Routing Registry as a part of the RIPE Whois Database and the Internet Routing Registry (IRR) - Specifying routing policies using (RPSL) Routing Policy Specification Language and the RtConfig tool - IRRToolSet - Routing Information Service (RIS) - Routing Registry Consistency Check Project Please note that this is an advanced course. It will: - NOT teach the basics of routing - NOT teach the basics of RIPE Database operations - NOT describe how to receive Internet resources from the RIPE NCC - NOT describe how to operate a Local Internet Registry (LIR) The target audience of the course are technical staff of LIRs: e.g. network operators, engineers etc. This course is not intended for administrative or management staff (e.g. Hostmasters) . It is assumed that all attendees will be familiar with Border Gateway Protocol routing and with the RIPE Database (i.e. creating/modifying objects). This course is based on interactive exercises in a local network set-up. Please bring your laptops equipped with the following: - A working Ethernet card, - Three meters of Ethernet cable, - A secure connection client, - A web browser. Please be prepared to share your laptop (or at least allow another attendee to "look over your shoulder") if necessary. The course is free of charge. We provide lunch and printed training materials. We do not cover any of your travel expenses or accommodation. We give all of our training courses in English. You can find more information about the course at: http://www.ripe.net/training/rr/ How to register: --------------------- You can register up to two people from your LIR for each course. (If there are places left nearer the time of the course, you can register more people). To register for this course, you can either use the LIR Portal at: https://lirportal.ripe.net/lirportal/training/course-list.html Or the online registration form on our website: http://www.ripe.net/cgi-bin/trainingform.pl.cgi If you have any questions, send an e-mail to <training(a)ripe.net>. Kind regards, Rumy Kanis Training Services Manager RIPE NCC

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Installed succesfully
by Michael Theurl 16 May '07

16 May '07

Hy, I got now an running version of the whois server i did also some config tunes and now i stuck at this point: /opt/whois_cw/bin/dbupdate -c /opt/whois_cw/conf/rip.config.sample -f /tmp/person SUMMARY OF UPDATE: Number of objects found: 1 Number of objects processed successfully: 0 Create: 0 Modify: 0 Delete: 0 No Operation: 0 Number of objects processed with errors: 1 Create: 1 Modify: 0 Delete: 0 Syntax Errors: 0 DETAILED EXPLANATION: ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ The following object(s) were found to have ERRORS: --- Create FAILED: [person] KS1 Kenny South ***Info: Authorisation passed ***Info: Syntax check passed person: Kenny South address: nordpool 12 phone: +43 664 123456 nic-hdl: KS1 changed: bitbucket(a)kyberna.net 20070515 source: SAMPLE ***Error: Please contact database admin: Error no 406 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ For assistance or clarification please contact: RIPE Database Administration <ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net> What do they mean with this error code number 406 best regards Michael -- [] this Email is made of 100% Recyclable electrons [] visit : www.smog.at ; www.theurl.at ; www.lugv.at [] private: members.smog.at/michael [] mailto : michael.theurl(a)smog.at [] key : www.smog.at/key

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java.xml
by Michael Theurl 15 May '07

15 May '07

Hello DB-WG, I have a problem with the build of the whois server. I checked the latest from the cvs server out. The ./configure setup worked without an problem. Hopefully you can help me out: make all-recursive make[1]: Entering directory `/home/theurlm/whois/whoisserver' Making all in src make[2]: Entering directory `/home/theurlm/whois/whoisserver/src' Making all in defs make[3]: Entering directory `/home/theurlm/whois/whoisserver/src/defs' ---------- 1. ERROR in AttributeSyntax.java (at line 22) import javax.xml.parsers.*; ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The import javax.xml cannot be resolved ---------- 2. WARNING in AttributeSyntax.java (at line 24) import org.xml.sax.*; ^^^^^^^^^^^ The import org.xml.sax is never used ---------- 2 problems (1 error, 1 warning) make[3]: *** [AttributeSyntax.class] Error 255 make[3]: Leaving directory `/home/theurlm/whois/whoisserver/src/defs' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/home/theurlm/whois/whoisserver/src' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/theurlm/whois/whoisserver' make: *** [all] Error 2 best regards Michael

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RIPE54 DB-WG Draft Agenda V3
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 10 May '07

10 May '07

Dear DB-WG folks, Chairpersons, Meeting-Role! This is the 3rd draft of an agenda for the DB-WG at RIPE54 in Tallinn, May 2007. Changes from V2: (in order to take into account on-site stuff) - removed rDNS topic (may come up again in autumn) - added detail to item C. - item Y, "scaled-down" item CA-TF report For time slot allocations please refer to the most up-to-date meeting plan at http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-54/meeting-plan.html Please note that, for our convenience, the time slot map becomes clickable for those sessions which have already submitted a (draft) agenda. Best regards, Wilfried. ________________________________________________________________________ A. Administrative Matters - scribe (N. Titley) - list of participants - agenda - approval of minutes - review of action list - "remote participation" coordination (if needed) B. Data Base Update (Jos B., RIPE NCC) [~30 min] . operational update . status of CRYPT-PW retirement . status of DB documentation . abuse handling C. Task-Force on Data Protection Issues (Jochen d. R. RIPE NCC) [~30 min] . Follow-up proposals/discussion: require link to maintainer for all objects (person, role!) re-open discussion on country: attribute D. Treatment of orphaned objects (N.N., RIPE NCC) [~10 min] . proposal to remove orphaned person objects Y. Input from other WGs and TFs . Resource Certification TF: impact on DB, if any (Nigel T.) for full CA-TF report please see http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-54/presentations/Certification_Task_… . DNS: retire rev-srv: attribute in inetnum: (Peter K, DENIC) Z. AOB . do we need to perform a review of our WGs mandate? (WW144) ________________________________________________________________________

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Compile the Whois server
by Michael Theurl 08 May '07

08 May '07

Hello DB-WG, I tried to compile the Whois server software but I got the following error: ./build.sh --prefix=/opt/whoisserver ./build.sh: line 36: ./configure: No such file or director It seem that the "configure" file is missing ! I downloaded the last version from the whoisserver software from the ripe ftp server. hopefully you can help me. best regards Michael -- [] this Email is made of 100% Recyclable electrons [] visit : www.smog.at ; www.theurl.at ; www.lugv.at [] private: members.smog.at/michael [] mailto : michael.theurl(a)smog.at [] key : www.smog.at/key

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New E-Learning Module: Using PGP and X509 to Protect MNTNER Objects
by Rumy Kanis 03 May '07

03 May '07

Dear Colleagues, We are pleased to announce the launch of the latest module on the RIPE NCC E-Learning Centre: - Using PGP Keys and X509 Certificates in MNTNER objects This module explains the steps required to use a PGP Key and/or X509 Certificate to protect objects in the RIPE Database. The module provides step-by-step guidelines for: - Creating a KEY-CERT object - Adding the KEY-CERT object to an existing MNTNER object as a method of authentication - Updating an object protected by that MNTNER using the PGP key or X509 certificate The RIPE NCC E-Learning Centre is a free of charge service available to everyone, and can be found at https://e-learning.ripe.net. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact us at: e-learning(a)ripe.net Happy Learning, Rumy Kanis Training Services Manager

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Fwd: [db-wg] RIPE54 DB-WG Draft Agenda V2
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

Dear DB-WG folks, Chairpersons, Meeting-Role! This is the 2nd draft of an agenda for the DB-WG at RIPE54 in Tallinn, May 2007. Changes from V1: - moved one line down to AOB, where it belongs, - added 1 item for "Input from..." For time slot allocations please refer to the most up-to-date meeting plan at http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-54/meeting-plan.html Please note that, for our convenience, the time slot map becomes clickable for those sessions which have already submitted a (draft) agenda. Best regards, Wilfried. ________________________________________________________________________ A. Administrative Matters - scribe (N. Titley) - list of participants - agenda - approval of minutes - review of action list - "remote participation" coordination (if needed) B. Data Base Update (N.N., RIPE NCC) [~30 min] . operational update . status of CRYPT-PW retirement . status of DB documentation . abuse handling . revDNS scrpit behaviour (t.b.c.) C. Task-Force on Data Protection Issues (Jochen d. R. RIPE NCC) [~30 min] D. Treatment of orphaned objects (N.N., RIPE NCC) [~10 min] . proposal to remove orphaned person objects Y. Input from other WGs and TFs . Resource Certification Task Force (impact on DB, if any) [t.b.c.] . DNS: retire rev-srv: attribute in inetnum: (Peter K, DENIC) Z. AOB . do we need to perform a review of our WGs mandate? (WW144)

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RIPE54 DB-WG Draft Agenda V1
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 27 Apr '07

27 Apr '07

Dear DB-WG folks, Chairpersons, Meeting-Role! This is the 1st draft of an agenda for the DB-WG at RIPE54 in Tallinn, May 2007. For time slot allocations please refer to the most up-to-date meeting plan at http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-54/meeting-plan.html Please note that, for our convenience, the time slot map becomes clickable for those sessions which have already submitted a (draft) agenda. Best regards, Wilfried. ________________________________________________________________________ A. Administrative Matters - scribe (N. Titley) - list of participants - agenda - approval of minutes - review of action list - "remote participation" coordination (if needed) B. Data Base Update (N.N., RIPE NCC) [~30 min] . operational update . status of CRYPT-PW retirement . status of DB documentation . abuse handling . revDNS scrpit behaviour (t.b.c.) C. Task-Force on Data Protection Issues (Jochen d. R. RIPE NCC) [~30 min] D. Treatment of orphaned objects (N.N., RIPE NCC) [~10 min] . proposal to remove orphaned person objects Y. Input from other WGs and TFs . Resource Certification Task Force (impact on DB, if any) [t.b.c.] . do we need to perform a review of our WGs mandate? (WW144) Z. AOB

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RIPE Database update problem
by Denis Walker 26 Apr '07

26 Apr '07

[Apologies for duplicate e-mails] Dear Colleagues, >From 21:30 (UTC) on 24 April 2007 until 10:20 (UTC) on 26 April 2007, e-mail updates sent by users to the RIPE Database update service were not processed by the RIPE Database. This problem has now been resolved. ALL the updates submitted have now been processed. No updates were lost. We apologise for this problem with the RIPE Database update service. This was caused by some network adjustments affecting our firewall and mail servers. It had no effect on updates submitted using syncupdates or webupdates, or changes made using the LIR Portal interface. Any changes made by the RIPE NCC Registration Services Department on behalf of RIPE NCC members were also unaffected. We would like to thank all our users for their patience while we fixed this problem. Regards Denis Walker Database Group RIPE NCC

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auto-dbm?
by Max Tulyev 26 Apr '07

26 Apr '07

Hi! I sent a number of letters to auto-dbm(a)ripe.net yesterday and today, all of them was accepted by RIPE mail server, but it seems all of them went to /dev/null without any actions and replies. My friends confirm this too. When DB updates will be fixed? -- WBR, Max Tulyev (MT6561-RIPE, 2:463/253@FIDO)

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[Fwd: [db-wg] auto-dbm?]
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 26 Apr '07

26 Apr '07

I guess this rather needs to go to ripe-dbm and (maybe) ops than to DB-WG list.... Wilfried. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: [db-wg] auto-dbm? Date: Thu, 26 Apr 2007 12:08:50 +0300 From: Max Tulyev <president(a)ukraine.su> To: Database WG <db-wg(a)ripe.net> Hi! I sent a number of letters to auto-dbm(a)ripe.net yesterday and today, all of them was accepted by RIPE mail server, but it seems all of them went to /dev/null without any actions and replies. My friends confirm this too. When DB updates will be fixed? -- WBR, Max Tulyev (MT6561-RIPE, 2:463/253@FIDO)

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Cleanup of unreferenced person objects
by Denis Walker 23 Apr '07

23 Apr '07

Hi There has been some useful feedback already on this proposal. Perhaps I need to clarify some points and suggest some changes to the proposal. We have always wanted to keep the database as clean as possible. So whilst half a million extra person objects has no effect on the operation, we prefer them not to be there if they are serving no useful purpose. We have also been looking more closely at Data Protection issues recently. We have a number of points to discus with the Data Protection Task Force. But the bottom line is, we have to define the purpose(s) of the RIPE Database. We are only allowed to keep personal data in the database if it fits the defined purpose. Although we are only at the stage of drafting these definitions, it is difficult to see how unreferenced person objects could fit any definition that we finally agree on. As for e-mails, I have discussed the numbers with our IT operations guys. They are confident we can handle the worst case scenario with our mail servers. So I suggest we process the deletions with the normal notification procedure where e-mails are sent to any "notify:" addresses in the person objects and to the maintainers if maintained. We will use a modified notification text for this purpose. It will refer to a web page that explains why these person objects are being deleted. Regarding the issue of temporary unreferenced person objects. For example when someone is moving to a new company and de-references their person object from the old companies data and intends to reference it with the new companies data. The proposal allows for a (minimum) one month waiting period before deletion. It could be up to two months, depending on when it is de-referenced. If there is a feeling that this needs to be a longer period it can be extended. I hope this addresses the issues so far raised. Regards Denis Walker Database Group RIPE NCC

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Clean up of unreferenced person/role objects
by Denis Walker 23 Apr '07

23 Apr '07

Introduction ------------ According to our database consistency statistics program (dbconstat [1]) we currently have 460,573 unreferenced person/role objects [2]. Some of these may be maintained, but are still unreferenced. Any personal data not referenced by Internet resources do not fit within the purpose of the RIPE Database. They should not be stored in the RIPE Database beyond a reasonable 'work in progress' period. The RIPE NCC has had a mandate to delete these unreferenced person/role objects since RIPE 40: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/wg/db/minutes/ripe-40.html (2001) At RIPE 41, the Database Working Group agreed that "maintained objects will now be removed" and "gave a mandate to the RIPE NCC to continue with the cleanup process." http://www.ripe.net/ripe/wg/db/minutes/ripe-41.html (2002) The cleanup process of 2003 (http://www.ripe.net/db/news/unref-cleanup-200304.html) involved using a script to run periodic cleanups. This script was put in place. However, it failed about 18 months ago. Because of other priorities, we have not had the time to examine this issue again until now. The graph showing the increase in these unreferenced person objects [3] indicates that the cleanup script appeared not to be performing correctly. At the start of 2006, there were about 300,000 unreferenced person/role objects. Since then there has been a steady increase with a large increase of almost 50,000 in February 2007. The graph also shows a slightly higher rate of increases in these objects since February 2007. Because of the high number now of unreferenced person objects, we want to raise the issue with the community again and propose the below procedure to clean them up. Because redundant personal data is a serious data protection issue, we want to take a new approach to this in the future. Once the initial cleanup is in progress, we will create a new proposal for a new, regular cleanup procedure. This will be sent to the Data Protection Task Force [4] and then to the rest of the community. One time bulk cleanup procedure ------------------------------- Month 1 * Select 80,000 unreferenced person/role objects. Month 2 * Check selected person/role objects. * Those still unreferenced: o Delete using normal update process. o 2000 objects per update message. o Run updates overnight (Saturday/Sunday). o One update every 15 minutes. o This should avoid any unnecessary load on the servers. * Select next 80,000 unreferenced person/role objects. Month 3 * Repeat process until complete. Notes ----- This procedure will take about 6 months to clear the current backlog, not including the extra time that may be necessary due to the increases over that period. Because of the high numbers involved, we prefer NOT to send out individual e-mail notifications, either before or after deletion. This is to prevent a high load on our mail servers, especially in the event of a high number of bounced e-mails. This means that there will be no individual announcements to listed e-mail addresses before the deletion and none of the usual update notifications. This also means that even if the objects are maintained, the maintainer will not be notified directly about the deletion of their unreferenced person/role object. We will, however, announce the cleanup to the Working Group mailing lists and as a news item on our web site home page. The worst problem that can occur is that someone will enter a reference to their person/role object just as we delete it. However, as we are only deleting unreferenced person/role objects, the time needed to re-create them is minimal. We suspect that a very large proportion of the unreferenced person/role objects that we will be deleting are abandoned objects that are no longer used. References ---------- [1] dbconstat http://www.ripe.net/projects/dbconstat/index.html [2] current unreferenced person/role objects http://www.ripe.net/projects/dbconstat/html/cons-current.html [3] graph of unreferenced person object increase http://www.ripe.net/projects/dbconstat/cons-unrefpero.html [4] Data Protection Task Force http://www.ripe.net/ripe/tf/dp/index.html

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Updated RIPE Database Manuals
by Denis Walker 17 Apr '07

17 Apr '07

[apologies for duplicates] Dear Colleagues, We are pleased to announce the publication of three updated RIPE Database Documents. ripe-401 RIPE Database Query Reference Manual ripe-402 RIPE Database User Manual: Getting Started DRAFT RIPE Database Update Reference Manual Previously, the Query and Update Reference Manuals were part of ripe-252, The RIPE Database Reference Manual. The content has been thoroughly revised and updated, and we have also improved the wording to make it clearer. The Update Reference Manual also contains a lot of new content, reflecting many of the changes made to the database software over recent years. Because it is so long since this manual has been revised, the list of changes is considerable. It has not been possible to reflect all these changes in the first revision. This is why it is only released as a draft document at this stage. A second revision will take place after the RIPE 54 Meeting. Together, the Query Reference Manual and Update Reference Manual (currently in draft format) will completely obsolete ripe-252. You can find ripe-401 and ripe-402 at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/database.html The draft of the RIPE Database Update Reference Manual is available at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/draft-documents/draft_db_manual.pdf Regards Denis Walker Database Group RIPE NCC

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Call for agenda items, DB-WG Meeting during RIPE54, Tallinn, EE
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 05 Apr '07

05 Apr '07

Dear DB-WG folks, the RIPE NCC will soon ask us to submit the draft agendas for the WGs. As I'll be out of office till April 18th, I'd like to distribute this Call for Agenda Items even before the Easter Holidays :-) Please submit (to the WG list or to me personally) your item requests or suggest topics for discussion to be included in the draft agenda! I plan to distribute the 1st version of the draft agenda around the 20th of April. The DataBase-WG meeting is scheduled for Friday morning, May 11, 2007. The overall RIPE meeting outline is already available at http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-54/meeting-plan.html The list of plenary presentations scheduled may eventually be available at [- as of early April this page does not exist yet -] http://www.ripe.net/ripe/meetings/ripe-54/presentations/ See you in Estonia, Wilfried.

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RIPE NCC Network Maintenance 1700 UTC (1900 CEST) Thurday 5 April 2007 Postponed
by Mark Guz 05 Apr '07

05 Apr '07

Dear Colleagues, Due to the fact that the RIPE NCC will be closed tomorrow and Monday we have decided to postpone this maintenance until next Wednesday (11/04/07 ). Apologies for the inconvenience this may cause. If you have any questions please send them to ops(a)ripe.net Kind Regards Mark Guz Senior Engineer OPS/IT RIPE NCC Amsterdam

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Concerning the authentication for route object creation
by Hendrik T Voelker 04 Apr '07

04 Apr '07

Dear RIPE, dear Colleagues. I'd like to discuss a topic which most likely has already been discussed several times - only I have not seen that so far. If so, please excuse the 100th time being asked about it and just point me to results of these discussions. Anyway, here we go: According to http://www.ripe.net/info/faq/db/route-creation-IP-space-check.html if it is found that there is no exact matching route object already in existence in the RIPE DB, the less specific route is examined. If one is found deciding for authentication are then contained mnt-routes, mnt-lower or mnt-by fields. What annoys me here is, that holes are completely disregarded, meaning so even if because of defined holes the route object is not authoritative for a network, nonetheless it's authentication data is used. As we have several larger aggregated routes and additional some routes for IP allocations that have a status of "ALLOCATED UNSPECIFIED" we have to update our route objects to include maintainers for other companies so that they become able to maintain PI allocations. If the authentication process would regard holes all we would have to do would be defining a hole once, and not have to change the mnt-routes for a network for every provider change. This might ease the daily business of us all slightly. Cheers Hendrik -- Hendrik T. Voelker HTV5-RIPE EMEA Registrar Team Verizon Deutschland GmbH Sebrathweg 20 D-44149 Dortmund GERMANY http://www.verizonbusiness.com/de/ tel +49-231-972-1565 fax +49-231-972-2587 PubKey 1024D/92479A5D EC1B 76F2 D69D 11C6 2611 5CD1 5269 9351 9247 9A5D Verizon Deutschland GmbH - Sebrathweg 20, 44149 Dortmund, Germany - Amtsgericht Dortmund, HRB 14952 - Gesch�ftsf�hrer: Donald Badoux - Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrats: Mark Kearns

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RIPE NCC Network Maintenance 1700 UTC (1900 CEST) Thurday 5 April 2007
by Mark Guz 03 Apr '07

03 Apr '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 [apologies for duplicates] Dear Colleagues, On Thursday 05/04/2007, between 17:00 and 19:00 (UTC), the RIPE NCC will carry out planned maintenance work on our core network infrastructure. RIPE NCC services will be temporarily unavailable during this period. We apologise for any inconvenience that this may cause. This work is due to the deployment of a new section of dark fibre between two of our PoPs If you have any questions about this, please send an e-mail to: ops(a)ripe.net Regards Mark Guz Senior Engineer Operations Department RIPE NCC http://www.ripe.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFGEhqgl42z2L2N9gERAofHAKClFauaor8xhKENLD4dp5PSfN9MFQCfZhCh D1RBdhQbWlox3dtzLzLPvLE= =g9jU -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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NOC / Lookinglass Information in the RIPE DB
by Jeroen Massar 29 Mar '07

29 Mar '07

Hi, I am probably approaching this from the wrong way, in that case point me at the right way so that I can do it in the correct way. It needs discussion first anyway, so here we go: RIPE currently has a couple of projects going on which help in solving network connectivity issues, amongst those of course the really nice RIS tool (I love BGPPlay btw :) and the debogon projects. The latter project can be used by a network admin to check if that, to be debogonized network, is reachable. This does not help with network problems that might occur at other places. Now what if we could have an object in the RIPE registry that would explain us where to find Looking Glasses that are applicable for a prefix? I am thinking of something in the area of the following: route: 192.0.2.0/24 descr: Documentation Network origin: AS23456 lookingglass: http://noc.as23456.net/lg/ reachable: icmp:192.0.2.1 reachable: http://192.0.2.1 mnt-by: RIR-MNT source: RIPE # Filtered One could debate that maybe putting the proposed 'lookingglass' and 'reachable' addresses might be better suited in the ASN object. Another option to store this data would be to create a new 'noc' object and to have the details in there. The above information, when available, could then easily allow operators who have a problem with a certain prefix to find the lookingglass which allows them to look at the problem from the remote angle, without having to contact that NOC. This will give people with network problems a better insight, which allows for better reporting of the issue, and thus hopefully faster resolution of issues. There are indeed resources (eg www.traceroute.org) which list these items, but it is much more scalable and reliable to have it in the RIPE registry. What do folks think about this? Useless? Useful? Nonsense? ??? :) Greets, Jeroen

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whois-server friendly client programming
by Henning Brauer 02 Mar '07

02 Mar '07

Hi, I am writing a tool to generate OpenBGPD filters from the policy specification in aut-num objects. Naturally, this involves sending a lot of queries to the whois servers: -one for the aut-num in question -one for every as-set given in the policy -one for every member of these as-sets, and recursively for their members, until we're down to an all-aut-num list -for each aut-num, a query for the routes it exports (-i origin <AS>) I do have extensive caching in place, all responses are beeing cached (or rather, the parse result), so no query is ever sent twice. nontheless, a lot of queries remain. right now, I have whois.ripe.net hardwired, of course this is going to change before the tool is released. I am using "-r -a -T <objtype> <object>" for aut-num and as-set, and "-r -a -T <objtype> -i origin <as>" for route objects. Questions: can I make life easier for the whois servers by using another set of query options? what is a good default whois server? whois.ripe.net? whois.radb.net? of course, I run into the penalty delays the whois server imposes because of the amount of queries I send. How do I deal with that? do nothing, just accept the delay (that's how it is now)? is it possible (and feasable!) to mirror the entire IRR? is this documented somewhere? I'd happily point to that documentation and recommend running a local mirror in the manpage if that is feasable. the forced delays also make development pretty painful ;( Thanks & Greetz Henning Brauer -- Henning Brauer, hb(a)bsws.de, henning(a)openbsd.org BS Web Services, http://bsws.de Full-Service ISP - Secure Hosting, Mail and DNS Services Dedicated Servers, Rootservers, Application Hosting - Hamburg & Amsterdam

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Deprecation of CRYPT-PW authentication method from the RIPE Database
by Agoston Horvath 21 Feb '07

21 Feb '07

[Apologies for duplicate mails] Dear Colleagues, The CRYPT-PW deprecation project ends today, Wednesday, 21 February 2007. From today, the following changes will apply: * CRYPT-PW passwords will be disabled in the syntax * CRYPT-PW passwords will be disabled in authorisation * CRYPT-PW passwords will be removed from existing maintainer objects If a maintainer object contained CRYPT-PW passwords only, the passwords were replaced with a randomly generated MD5-PW password. If a maintainer object used an authentication method that was not CRYPT-PW, the CRYPT-PW auth: lines have been removed. To retrieve the removed CRYPT-PW passwords, please visit: https://www.ripe.net/cgi-bin/crypt2md5.cgi The RIPE NCC has recently upgraded its mail servers to support TLS/SSL. If you are updating the RIPE Database by email, please use an SMTP server that supports TLS/SSL. This will protect your data where possible. The use of an SMTP server that supports TLS/SSL is particularly important if you use cleartext password (MD5-PW) for authentication instead of PGP or X509. More information is available at: http://ripe.net/news/tls.html Notification e-mails will be sent today to over 5100 e-mail addresses. A total of 2337 objects had CRYPT-PW authentication only. Another 179 objects had other authentication methods in addition to CRYPT-PW. More information about the project is available at: http://www.ripe.net/db/support/security/crypt-pw_deprecation/ If you have any questions, contact: ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net. Regards, Agoston Horvath Database Group RIPE NCC

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RIPE NCC Planned Maintenance, February/March 2007
by RIPE NCC 19 Feb '07

19 Feb '07

[Apologies for duplicate e-mails] Dear Colleagues, The RIPE NCC will perform maintenance work that will affect a number of servers. The maintenance work will take place on: Tuesday, 20 February 2007 between 18:00 and 20:00 UTC Thursday, 22 February 2007 between 18:00 and 20:00 UTC Tuesday, 27 February 2007 between 18:00 and 20:00 UTC During this maintenance, individual servers may experience short outages. We apologise for any inconvenience that this may cause. If you have any questions about this, please send an e-mail to ops(a)ripe.net. Regards, James -- James Aldridge, Senior Systems & Network Engineer, RIPE NCC

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