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Unsubscribing
by Ruth Guthrie 26 Aug '97

26 Aug '97

I wonder if you can help me unsubscribe my late husband, Dave Guthrie, from the Ripe mailing list. Dave died in March of this year, and in May I sold our shares of Technocom plc to the Easynet Group. Dave's e-mail address was dave(a)technocom.co.uk. Since his death, incoming messages have been routed to me at ruth(a)technocom.co.uk (until the sale of Technocom) and at the.guthries(a)worldnet.att.net (since May). There have also been occasional uses of @technocom.com and @technocom.net, just to confuse the issue further. If you are able to unsubscribe him, I would appreciate it. If not, have you any advice about how I would do so? Many thanks for your help... Ruth Guthrie

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Bug in database software.
by RIPE Database Administration 22 Aug '97

22 Aug '97

Dear Colleagues, This message is to report a bug in the database software. If you send in an update of a route object in the classful net notation (e.g. 193.0.0.0) instead of the classless representation, you will get a warning message indicating that the route was rewritten to 127.255.255.255/24. You should find that you can lookup the original route object in the database. You should also find that you cannot lookup the new spurious route object, 127.255.255.255\24. You should do the following: (1) update your original route object using the classless notation; (2) delete the 127.255.255.255\24 object; you will find it in the acknowledgement you received from the first update. We will fix this problem as soon as possible. If you have anymore questions, please contact <ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net>. Regards, Ambrose Magee ____________________________ RIPE Database Administration.

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Power Tool For Webmasters
by powertools＠cybertools.net 06 Aug '97

06 Aug '97

With over 30 million documents on the Web today, and thousands more being added almost hourly, it is now harder than ever for potential customers to find your place on the Net. Which is why we've developed the Web Promotion Spider for Windows 95 / NT . This amazing new software automatically submits your site to over 250 (the list grows daily) major search engines, directories, and Usenet newsgroups! Not only that, The Web Promotion Spider has the ability to dynamically optimize your website, ensuring maximum visibility on the Internet - at the same time recording all registration data in a built in database. Originally engineered for use by the professional advertising industry, this program is easy and intuitive to use. Beginners will be amazed at how simple it is to take complete control over their search engine and index marketing efforts. But don't be fooled by its simplicity! The Web Promotion Spider is an industrial strength marketing tool and an extremely valuable part of any on-line publicity campaign. With this kind of power, it should come as no surprise that many of our customers have built profitable on-line promotional businesses with this product and their existing Internet connection! But don't just take our word for it. The Web Promotion Spider is available now for FREE immediate download on a limited trial basis (shareware). Visit http://www.cybertools.net/spider /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// If you wish to be removed from future mailings, please reply with the subject "Remove" and this software will automatically block you from future mailings. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

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Power Tool For Webmasters
by powertools＠cybertools.net 29 Jul '97

29 Jul '97

With over 30 million documents on the Web today, and thousands more being added almost hourly, it is now harder than ever for potential customers to find your place on the Net. Which is why we've developed the Web Promotion Spider for Windows 95 / NT . This amazing new software automatically submits your site to over 250 (the list grows daily) major search engines, directories, and Usenet newsgroups! Not only that, The Web Promotion Spider has the ability to dynamically optimize your website, ensuring maximum visibility on the Internet - at the same time recording all registration data in a built in database. Originally engineered for use by the professional advertising industry, this program is easy and intuitive to use. Beginners will be amazed at how simple it is to take complete control over their search engine and index marketing efforts. But don't be fooled by its simplicity! The Web Promotion Spider is an industrial strength marketing tool and an extremely valuable part of any on-line publicity campaign. With this kind of power, it should come as no surprise that many of our customers have built profitable on-line promotional businesses with this product and their existing Internet connection! But don't just take our word for it. The Web Promotion Spider is available now for FREE immediate download on a limited trial basis (shareware). Visit http://www.cybertools.net/spider /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// If you wish to be removed from future mailings, please reply with the subject "Remove" and this software will automatically block you from future mailings. ////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////

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RIPE Database: New format for reply messages
by Chris Fletcher 21 Jul '97

21 Jul '97

As announced last week the RIPE database mail interface is now using a new format for replies. Please let ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net know of any problems or suggestions. Regards, Chris Fletcher - RIPE NCC

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Is Your Web Site A Secret?
by owl＠owlsnest.com 18 Jul '97

18 Jul '97

Is your web site the best kept secret on the Internet? We'll promote it to 50 search engines and indexes for $85 and complete the job in 2 business days. Satisfaction is guaranteed! If you have a great product, but are not getting many inquiries from your Web site, you may not be adequately listed on the Web's search engines and indexes. Millions of viewers daily use these facilities to find the products and services they are looking for. But if your site is not listed, no one will see it. Listings on most of these services are free. However, locating and filling out the forms required to get a listing can take several days, and most people just don't have the time to do it. That is why we offer a web site promotion service. WHAT'S THE DEAL? We will submit your site to 50 indexes and search engines for $85. We will accept the return of this E-mail, with the form below filled out, as an order. We will bill you upon completion of the promotion. Our terms are net 15 days from date of invoice. Satisfaction guaranteed! HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE? Generally, we complete the submissions within 48 hours of receiving your order. It can take any individual search engine or index up to three weeks to process your submission, although most are much faster. WHAT SEARCH ENGINES AND INDEXES ARE INCLUDED IN THE PROMOTION? The list changes from time to time. This is our current list: Abaweb!, Alta Vista, Been There, BizWeb, Central Source Yellow Pages, Enterpreneurs on the Web, Excite, Four11, Galaxy, I-Network I-Systems Spiral Business Directory, I-World Web Pointer, Infoseek, Inktomi, Innovator's Network Yellow Pages, Internet Mall, Jayde Online Directory, Jumpcity, Jumper Hot Links, Linkmaster, Lycos, Magellan, Mega Mall, Net-Happenings, Net Navigator, Net Mall, NTG's List, NYNEX Big Yellow, One World Plaza, OnLine's WWWeb Index, Rex, Starting Point, Truenorth, URL Tree, Virtual Lynx, Web Point, WebCentral, Web Venture Hotlist, Webcrawler, Websurf, Win Mag/NetGuide Hotspots, WhatUSeek, Worldwide Announce Archive, WWW Business Yellow Pages, World Wide Yellow Pages, WWW Worm, YelloWWWeb. HOW WILL I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE PROMOTED MY SITE? When we have completed the promotion, we will send you an HTML file as an attachment to your E-mail bill. Save this file to your disk, and view it through your Web browser. It provides links to the search engine we submitted your site to, plus any comments we received from them when we did it. ARE THERE ANY GUARANTEES? We do not require prepayment. Your satisfaction is guaranteed or you don't pay the bill. WHO IS OWL'S EYE PRODUCTIONS? We are a web site promotion company located at: Owl's Eye Productions, Inc. 260 E. Main Street Brewster, NY 10509 Phone: (914) 278-4933 Fax: (914) 278-4507 Email: owl(a)owlsnest.com HOW DO I ORDER? The easiest way to order is by e-mail. Just hit the REPLY button on your e-mail program and fill out the following information. (This information will be posted to the search engines/indexes): Your name: Company Name: Address: City: State/Prov: Zip/Postal Code: Telephone: Fax: Email address: URL: http:// Site Title: Description (about 25 words): Key words (maximum of 25, in descending order of importance): Proofs (Where shall we e-mail proofs): If billing a different address, please complete the following: Addressee: Company Name: Address: City: State/Prov: Zip/Postal Code: Telephone: Fax: Email address: We will bill via Email. (7519) Terms: By returning this document via Email, you agree as follows: You have the authority to purchase this service on behalf of your company. Terms are net 15 days. Accounts sent to collections will be liable for collection costs. You agree to protect and indemnify Owl's Eye Productions, Inc. in any claim for libel, copyright violations, plagiarism, or privacy and other suits or claims based on the content or subject matter of your site. WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? When we receive your order, we will input the information into our system, and send you a proof. After we process any corrections, we will run your promotion, capturing any comments from search engines as we go. We will incorporate these into an HTML-formatted report to you, which we will attach to your bill. ===Web Promotions=====Press Releases=====Link Exchanges========= Owl's Eye Productions, Inc. 260 E. Main Street Brewster, NY 10509 Ph: 914-278-4933 Fx: 914-278-4507 E-mail: owlseye(a)owlsnest.com

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New format for notifications from RIPE Database.
by RIPE Database Administration 14 Jul '97

14 Jul '97

Dear Colleagues, To give more time to users who wish to modify scripts, the new format for notification messages from the RIPE Database will be implemented on Monday, 21 July. If you have anymore questions, please contact <ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net>. Regards, Ambrose Magee ____________________________ RIPE Database Administration.

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Cross Notification in the Routing Registry
by Carol Orange 11 Jul '97

11 Jul '97

Dear all, The following describes a mechanism for "Cross Notification in the Routing Registry" to be implemented shortly at the RIPE NCC. The mechanism has been modified to incorporate the feedback received during RIPE 27. Appended is a short history explaining how the proposal reached its current form. If this mechanism is of interest to you, please review the document and send any comments or questions you may have to myself. Unless we hear show stoppers, we will start the implementation in the week of July 21, 1997. Greetings, Carol Orange, RIPE NCC -------------------------------------------------------------------- Cross Notification in the Routing Registry Carol Orange, July 1997 Suppose you register the announcement of a route covering some /24. When you make the announcement, it may be useful to know that the /24 has already been registered as being announced in another AS. Alternatively, if a user of a /24 which is announced by you decides to become multi-homed, it may be of interest to you. Overlapping routes are often unintentionally announced in a single AS, and a mechanism for detecting such errors would certainly be handy. In the following, we propose a simple cross notification mechanism which will allow routing registry users to be notified of overlapping route announcements in the Routing Registry (RR). Consider the route object: route: [mandatory] [single] [primary/look-up key] descr: [mandatory] [multiple] [ ] origin: [mandatory] [single] [primary key] hole: [optional] [multiple] [ ] withdrawn: [optional] [single] [ ] comm-list: [optional] [multiple] [ ] advisory: [optional] [multiple] [ ] remarks: [optional] [multiple] [ ] notify: [optional] [multiple] [inverse key] mnt-by: [mandatory] [multiple] [inverse key] changed: [mandatory] [multiple] [ ] source: [mandatory] [single] [ ] To address the considerations above, we propose the following notification mechanism be implemented in the Routing Registry: 1. Whenever a route object is added to the routing registry, a check is done to see if the address space overlaps with that in any other route object in the RR. If so, a notification will be sent to the submitter of the route object. This will always happen and is not dependent on any notification attributes described below. 2. A new field called "cross-nfy:" will be added to the route and aut-num objects. This field: a) contains a contact reference, specified as either + a NIC-handle pointing to a person or role object, the email address of which will get the notification; or + a mntner ID referencing the maintainer to be notified; b) is optional; and c) is multiple (so that more than one contact can be notified). This attribute is used to request notifications of the addition or removal of route objects which overlap the address space of the already registered route objects in which this attribute is specified. If the "cross-nfy:" attribute is used in: + a route object, then a notification will be sent for any overlaps with the address space specified in the route object; + an aut-num object, then a notification will be sent for overlaps with the address space specified in each route object in which the given AS number is specified in the "origin:" attribute. The contact in "cross-nfy:" will receive an e-mail whenever: + a route is registered which overlaps this address space; or + a route is removed which overlapped this address space. If all is well, the former will indicate the introduction of multi-homing, and the latter will indicate the cancellation of the multi-homing. It is expected, however, that the former will often indicate an error, and the latter its removal. Either way, it will be useful to know about the registration and elimination of overlapping announcements. Some Important Notes -------------------- 1. At the time of implementation, the notification may take up to 24 hours, due to the current mirroring scheme employed in the RR. This time will be reduced when the mirroring scheme is improved. 2. Exact address space matches will be distinguished from non-exact overlaps in the notification messages. 3. After the implementation of RPSL, it will be useful to allow one or more route-sets to be specified in the "cross-nfy:" attribute in addition to the contact reference. For example, using: cross-nfy: <ContactA> <route-set1> <route-set3> cross-nfy: <ContactB> <route-set2> in an aut-num object would allow ContactA to be notified upon registration and deletion of routes overlapping the address space covered in <route-set1> and <route-set3> and ContactB to be notified with regards to route registrations with address space overlapping that covered in <route-set2>. In this way, a more selective notification scheme can be specified without adding "cross-nfy:" to every route object. Acknowledgements ---------------- Thanks to the RIPE Routing and Database working groups for lively discussions resulting in constructive input on this notification mechanism. Daniel Karrenberg was the first to mention the need for a notification mechanism in the RR. Chris Fletcher, Joachim Schmitz and Wilfried Woeber have all made essential contributions. ------------- ------------- ------------- ------------ ------------- Appendix - Some History At the January meeting of the Routing WG in Amsterdam, various possible hierarchies for authorization in the Routing Registry (RR) were considered. During the discussion, a suggestion was made that "hierarchical notification" would be useful even in cases where authority is not well defined. This suggestion enjoyed strong support of both the Routing WG and the Database WG. At the start of May 1997, a proposal was submitted to the mailing lists of the RIPE Routing and Database WG's describing a notification mechanism designed to meet the stated requirements. During the RIPE meeting in Dublin, it was agreed to that the notification mechanism should be implemented, with the following modifications: 1. Whenever a route object is submitted in the RR, a notification should be generated to the submitter if the address space overlaps with any other route object in the RR. [RIPE27 - Routing WG meeting] 2. The attribute should be named "cross-nfy:" rather than "x-notify:" to avoid any misunderstandings with respect to other conventions. In particular, mailers often interpret "X-field:" to mean "ignore this field". [private discussion Chris Fletcher] 3. If the address space covered in the route object matched the address space in another route object, be sure this is clear in the notification message. [RIPE27 - Routing WG meeting] 4. - Notifications should be sent to the appropriate contact not only if an overlap is introduce, but also when an overlap is eliminated. [RIPE27 - Routing WG meeting] 5. The "cross-nfy:" field should be available for the "aut-num:" object as well as for the routing object. If "cross-nfy:" is in the "aut-num:" object, it applies to all routes with that aut-num as origin. [RIPE27 - Database WG meeting] It has since been suggested that it would be useful if the mechanism would be extensible for the "route-set:" objects defined in RPSL (see draft-ietf-rps-rpsl-02). To make use of the route grouping functionality supplied by the "route-set:" object, we suggest the following extension be considered: 6. In the "aut-num:" object, allow "cross-nfy:" to be a multiple attribute, and in addition to specifying who should be notified, specify for which route-sets. If no route-sets are specified, then the notification will take place for all route objects with the given "aut-num:" as origin. [private discussion Joachim Schmitz]

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RIPE Database: New format for reply messages
by Chris Fletcher 08 Jul '97

08 Jul '97

As announced at the RIPE 27 database working group in Dublin we have a new format for the automatic replies to RIPE database udpates. The new format is more consise and clearly states in the body and the subject line of the reply whether the update was completely sucessful or whether part of it failed. The new code is running on the test database for you to try out. Please forward comments to ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net. Updates to the test database should be sent to <test-dbm(a)ripe.net>. You should use a source of 'TEST' rather than the usual 'RIPE'. eg person: Test Person address: TEST phone: +31 20 535 4444 fax-no: +31 20 535 4445 e-mail: bit-bucket(a)ripe.net nic-hdl: AUTO-1 changed: chris(a)ripe.net 970704 source: TEST To query the test database invoke whois with the -h argument ... % whois -h test-whois.ripe.net TP1-RIPE person: Test Person address: TEST phone: +31 20 535 4444 fax-no: +31 20 535 4445 e-mail: bit-bucket(a)ripe.net nic-hdl: TP1-RIPE changed: chris(a)ripe.net 970704 source: TEST We would like to put this software into service on the RIPE database in a week's time on Monday 14th July. If you have automatic scripts that parse the old format and you can't update them in time please let us know (ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net). Regards, Chris Fletcher RIPE NCC

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slow indexdb
by Gabor Kiss 26 Jun '97

26 Jun '97

'indexdb -s RIPE' runs 8 hours on a 4 processor SparCenter 2000. Is this normal? What are your experiences? Gabor

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questions
by HJ Hwang 20 Jun '97

20 Jun '97

Hi, I am trying to use ripe-dbase-2.0.3. Document says that db.1.85.tar.gz is used for this database software. So I got this software and compile and then perl4.036 version. I installed db.1.85 successfully and as the result I copied dbm.h and ndbm.h to /usr/include. And then, I tried to compile perl4.036 but, "dbm_clearerr ld symbol not found " error occured. After looking at dbm.h, I found there wasn't dbm_clearerr there. How do I do ? So I am in deadlock status. Please Help me !! Isn't any other method to run ripe database software using perl5.004 ? Thanks in advance ! -- * _ _ ||_|| ||_| Hwang, Hyojung / jung(a)jean.kotel.co.kr / 82-2-526-5235 |_| _|_ Internet Team / Multimedia Laboratory / KT R&D Group |_| 137-792, 17 Umyun-Dong, Seocho-Gu, Seoul, Korea

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None
by Remy Longueve 20 Jun '97

20 Jun '97

help

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Some problem !!
by HJ Hwang 20 Jun '97

20 Jun '97

Hi, My name is Hwang, HyoJung. I am working for Korea Telecom. I am trying to install ripe-dbase software on Solaris 2.5. I did install perl5.004 and I did install db.1.85. But when I did make of ripe-dbase software, "version missmatch" error occured. So I did try to install perl4.036 on Solaris 2.5. This time, I also ran into the problem. there are no dbm_clearerr function in db.1.85. How do I you install perl4.036 and ripe-dbase software ? Please if you know why this occurs and how to do to solve the problem, let me know it. Thanks in advance !! -- * _ _ ||_|| ||_| Hwang, Hyojung / jung(a)jean.kotel.co.kr / 82-2-526-5235 |_| _|_ Internet Team / Multimedia Laboratory / KT R&D Group |_| 137-792, 17 Umyun-Dong, Seocho-Gu, Seoul, Korea

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(no subject)
by N Gnanamurugan 07 Jun '97

07 Jun '97

subscribe db-wg. __________________________________________________ N Gnanamurugan, Engineer, Gulfsat Communications Company, P.O Box 2400, | email:murugan@gulfsat.com Safat, | Ph:+965-328-0770 Kuwait. | Fax:+965-328-1311 _________________________________________________

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New Document available: RIPE-157
by RIPE NCC Document Annoucement Service 30 May '97

30 May '97

New/Revised RIPE Document Announcement -------------------------------------- A new document is available from the RIPE document store. Ref: ripe-157 Title: RIPE NCC Database Documentation Author: A. M. R. Magee Date: 29 May 1997 Format: PS=1145210 TXT=187252 Obsoletes: ripe-153 Ref: ripe-153 Title: RIPE NCC Database Documentation Author: A. M. R. Magee Date: 28 Jan 1997 Format: PS=788674 TXT=137793 Obsoletes: Version 1.2 of the document. Obsoleted by: ripe-157 Short content description ------------------------- This is an updated version of ripe-153. It includes information on the new whois -v feature, the new output from whois -t, hierarchical authorisation of the creation of inetnum objects, mirroring the RIPE Database, appendixes containing descriptions of the attributes and the objects. Comments to <ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net>. Accessing the RIPE document store --------------------------------- You can access the RIPE document store via the World Wide Web; RIPE-157 is available from the WWW at the following URL: http://www.ripe.net/docs/ripe-157.html The RIPE document store is also available via anonymous FTP to ftp.ripe.net, in the directory ripe/docs. The full filenames of the new documents on the FTP-server are: ripe/docs/ripe-157.ps for the PostScript version ripe/docs/ripe-157.txt for the plain text version Documents can also be retrieved from the RIPE document store using a mail server program. For more information on how to use the program, send email to <mail-server(a)ripe.net> with "send HELP" in the body text. If you have anymore questions, please contact <ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net>. Regards, Ambrose Magee ____________________________ RIPE Database Administration.

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RIPE 27 Database Workshop Slides.
by RIPE Database Administration 29 May '97

29 May '97

Dear Colleagues, The slides of the Database Workshop which was run at RIPE 27 are available at: <http://www.ripe.net/meetings/ripe/ripe-27/pres/db> <ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/presentations/ripe-m27-orange-magee-db-workshop.ps.…> If you have anymore questions, please contact <ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net>. Regards, Ambrose Magee ____________________________ RIPE Database Administration.

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New Database Document
by RIPE Database Administration 22 May '97

22 May '97

Dear Colleagues, The Database Document, ripe-153, is obsolete. It is superceded by ripe-157, available at: <http://www.ripe.net/db/doc.html> <ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-157.ps> <ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-157.txt> Help on using whois is available by doing whois HELP Help on creating, updating and deleting objects is available by sending mail to <auto-dbm(a)ripe.net> with HELP in the Subject line. If you have anymore questions, please contact <ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net>. Regards, Ambrose Magee ____________________________ RIPE Database Administration.

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subscribe db-wg
by Dieterle 21 May '97

21 May '97

subscribe db-wg

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(rough) draft agenda for DB-WG mtg. during RIPE 27
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 17 May '97

17 May '97

Dear all! This is the initial, and still very rough, draft of a proposed agenda for the RIPE DB-WG Meeting, currently scheduled for Tue, May 22. Due to the fact that the workload here at home is extremely high at the moment, and that we only got a 60min slot assigned, I have to be considerably less ambitious this time. Please bear with me. Here you go... See you in Dublin, Wilfried. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Proposed Agenda for the Database Working Group Meeting RIPE-27, May 1997, Dublin 1st Draft, May. 17, 1997 A. Administrative stuff (W.Woeber, chair) 10min - volunteering of the scribe - WG-agenda bashing - handling of minutes and actions B. New functionality, proposals, reports 30min - Database Referral mechanism (Q: rhois compatibility ?) - Database consistency - Security and Authentication (if time permits) B. DB-SW status report by the RIPE NCC (DB-SW maintainers, RIPE-NCC) 10min - operational changes (handles mandatory) - new functionality implemented and bugs fixed - documentation (current status, progress) - feedback from the users (DB WS usefulness?) G. General input from other WGs 10min - Hier. Authorisation and Notification in the RR (Routing WG) Z. AOB WW, 17-MAY-1997 21:22:05 -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Wilfried Woeber : e-mail: Woeber(a)CC.UniVie.ac.at Computer Center - ACOnet : Vienna University : Tel: +43 1 4065822 355 Universitaetsstrasse 7 : Fax: +43 1 4065822 170 A-1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe : NIC: WW144 --------------------------------------------------------------------------

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whois -v option.
by RIPE Database Administration 16 May '97

16 May '97

Dear Colleagues, A new feature is available in the RIPE Database; "whois -v". This option displays detailed information of any type of object that is accepted by the RIPE database. Each attribute of the object is briefly described, as is the object itself. A more detailed template of the object is also given. A full list of objects is available by typing "all" after the "-v" option. The new, detailed template only is available using "whois -t". A full list of objects may be obtained by typing "all" after the "-t" option. The new template lists each of the attributes of an object together with a list of flags. Flags are enclosed in square brackets and separated within the list by white space. The flags are ... [mandatory] - An object MUST NOT contain zero instances of this attribute. [optional] - An object MAY contain zero instances of this attribute. [single] - An object MUST NOT contain more than one instance of this attribute. [multiple] - An object MAY contain more than one instance of this attribute. [look-up key] - Attribute is indexed. [inverse key] - Attribute is in the 'reverse' index. (use -i) [primary key] - Attribute is (part of) the primary key. [primary/look-up key] - Attribute is both indexed and is (part of) the primary key. The "-t" option does not display a list of obsolete attributes, as before. The "-v" option must be used. Example: [an-lar]$ whois -h whois.ripe.net -t person person: [mandatory] [single] [primary/look-up key] address: [mandatory] [multiple] [ ] phone: [mandatory] [multiple] [ ] fax-no: [optional] [multiple] [ ] e-mail: [optional] [multiple] [look-up key] nic-hdl: [mandatory] [single] [primary/look-up key] remarks: [optional] [multiple] [ ] notify: [optional] [multiple] [inverse key] mnt-by: [optional] [multiple] [inverse key] changed: [mandatory] [multiple] [ ] source: [mandatory] [single] [ ] To use "whois -v", you will need a new whois client. The new version of the whois client is available at <ftp://ftp.ripe.net/tools/ripe-whois-tools-2.1.tar.gz> If you have anymore questions, please contact <ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net>. Regards, Ambrose Magee ____________________________ RIPE Database Administration.

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whois -v option.
by RIPE Database Administration 16 May '97

16 May '97

Dear Colleagues, A new version of the C client for whois is available at ftp://ftp.ripe.net/tools/ripe-whois-tools-2.2.tar.gz Thanks to Steven Bakker for the patch. However, the problem appears to be system dependent as I never had a core dump with "whois -t xyz" or "whois -v abc". If you have any questions, please contact <ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net>. Regards, Ambrose Magee ____________________________ RIPE Database Administration.

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Hierarchical Authorisation in the RR
by Carol Orange 15 May '97

15 May '97

Hi again, Here is another brief proposal for your perusal. This time for an implementation of hierarchical authorization in the Routing Registry. The mechanism described below will implement a hierarchy in the RR for which I believe there is consensus. The ideas in the proposal below were sifted from discussions which took place on the <routing-wg(a)ripe.net> mailing list and in the Routing WG meetings at RIPE-25 and RIPE-26. Please review this if you have time. We are hoping to have a go ahead on this from the Routing and Database WG's at or shortly after RIPE-27. Greetings, Carol Orange RIPE NCC -------------------------------------------------------------------- Hierarchical Authorisation in the RR Proposal for an Implementation Carol Orange, May 1997 At the January meeting of the Routing WG in Amsterdam, various possible hierarchies for authorization in the Routing Registry (RR) were considered. Whereas extensive discussion took place on the extent to which authority can be established in the RR, there was clear agreement that the maintainer of an AS should have authority over what routes are announced with a given aut-num in the "origin:" attribute. In the following, we specify an implementation to support the authority of "aut-num:" maintainers to determine who can announce routes under their AS. The mechanism can be extended as the need arises and consensus on other forms of authorization is achieved. For more information on the discussions leading up to this proposal, see: http://www.ripe.net/wg/routing/haro-d.html. Implementation -------------- If you (or your organization) manages an AS, then you should have authority over the routes announced in your AS. This can be implemented if we: a) add a "mnt-lower:" attribute to the aut-num object b) allow routes to be announced with a given "origin:" by those given authority as defined in the mntner object specified in the "mnt-lower:" attribute of the aut-num object. Example ------- If we add a "mnt-lower:" attribute to the aut-num object of the RIPE NCC, then only those who know what peEw8Gb4xBNqI encrypts can add and remove routes originating in AS3333. ---- aut-num: AS3333 ... mnt-lower: AS3333-MNT ... ---- mntner: AS3333-MNT descr: RIPE-NCC Maintainer ... auth: CRYPT-PW peEw8Gb4xBNqI ... ---- route: 193.0.0.0/23 descr: RIPE-NCC origin: AS3333 ... Summary ------- Other forms of hierarchical authorization and notification can be implemented in the future if a well defined hierarchy can achieve consensus. To provide some initial functionality which may meet the needs of many RR users, we propose to implement the above in the short term.

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Re: whois -v option.
by Steven Bakker 15 May '97

15 May '97

==> From: RIPE Database Administration <ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net> ==> Thu, 15 May 1997 13:02:17 +0200 > To use "whois -v", you will need a new whois client. The new > version of the whois client is available at > > <ftp://ftp.ripe.net/tools/ripe-whois-tools-2.1.tar.gz> And it still goes "boom" when you try to use "whois -v" or "whois -t": kappa-~ & whois -v netnum zsh: 5855 segmentation fault (core dumped) whois -v netnum I have a patch for it (incidentally identical to the one I sent in last September ;-), which I'll attach below. It's basically a tiny error in the argc/argv handling. Cheers, Steven

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X-Notification in the RR
by Carol Orange 15 May '97

15 May '97

Hi all, The following is a proposal for a cross notification mechanism in the Routing Registry. I post it for your perusal and hope to discuss it during the Routing WG meeting in Dublin. The initial suggestion was made by Daniel Karrenberg at the Routing WG meeting in January, and discussions with Joachim Schmitz and Wilfried Woeber have helped me work it into the following proposal. Such a mechanism was given a high priority by those who participated in the recent RIPE Database priority survey, so we are hoping to reach consensus on this at or shortly after RIPE-27. Greetings, Carol Orange RIPE NCC ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Cross Notification in the Routing Registry A Proposal Carol Orange, May 1997 At the January meeting of the Routing WG in Amsterdam, various possible hierarchies for authorization in the Routing Registry (RR) were considered. During the discussion, a suggestion was made that "hierarchical notification" would be useful even in cases where authority is not well defined. This suggestion enjoys strong support of both the Routing WG and the Database WG. In the following, we propose a simple cross notification mechanism which will allow routing registry users to be notified of overlapping route announcements in the RR. Route Announcement Notifications in the RR ------------------------------------------ Suppose you announce a route in your address space covering some /24. It may be useful when you make the announcement, to know that the /24 has already been announced in another AS. Likewise, should the user of that address space later decide to become multi-homed, it may be interesting to know that as well. Moreover, overlapping routes are often unintentionally announced in a single AS. In all of these cases, it would be useful to get a notification from the RR. Consider the route object: route: [mandatory] [single] [primary/look-up key] descr: [mandatory] [multiple] [ ] origin: [mandatory] [single] [primary key] hole: [optional] [multiple] [ ] withdrawn: [optional] [single] [ ] comm-list: [optional] [multiple] [ ] advisory: [optional] [multiple] [ ] remarks: [optional] [multiple] [ ] notify: [optional] [multiple] [inverse key] mnt-by: [mandatory] [multiple] [inverse key] changed: [mandatory] [multiple] [ ] source: [mandatory] [single] [ ] Suppose we add a new field called "x-notify:" (cross-notify) which a) can contain either + a NIC-handle pointing to a person or role object, the email address of which will get the notification; or + a mntner ID pointing to the maintainer who will be notified b) is optional The contact in "x-notify:" will receive an e-mail whenever + a route is announced with overlapping address space + the address range in the route being added (with the "x-notify:" attribute) overlaps any address space currently announced in the RR. Issues ------ Does this cross notification satisfy the needs of network operators? Due to the global nature of the RR, some effort will be involved to provide notifications in a timely manner. What is an acceptable upper bound for cross notifications to be sent out? Using a NIC-handle or mntner for notification is different than the traditional e-mail address. However, it simplifies data maintenance for users significantly.

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nic-hdl mandatory
by RIPE Database Administration 15 May '97

15 May '97

Dear Colleagues, The nic-hdl attribute is now mandatory in the person object. If you have any questions, please contact <ripe-dbm(a)ripe.net>. Regards, Ambrose Magee ____________________________ RIPE Database Administration.

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