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creation of taskforce to support the ERX project (early registration xfer)
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 04 Oct '02

04 Oct '02

Dear participants in the DB and LIR WGs, as discussed and agreed in the DB-WG in Rhodes, and reported to the plenary, this is the "heads up" for the creation of a TaskForce (ERX-TF) to help in planning and test-driving the procedures and activities required to *most efficiently* perform the transfer of "early registrations" (sometimes also referred to as "legacy" IPv4 address space) from the ARIN DB to the RIPE DB.. [ For background information about the ERX Project please refer to the RIPE / RIPE NCC web pages. ] The proposed name of the TaskForce is "ERX-TF" . The preliminary and initial description of the activity is as follows: "The goal of the TF is to develop a proposal to the community of the transfer of early registration IPv4 address records (ERX) from ARIN to the RIPE NCC." For a start, I'd expect the TF to review the lessons learned from the transfer of AS Number Objects, and to investigate new or different issues with the already agreed transfer of IPv4 address space objects. The necessary next steps are 1) to ask the bigger community, by way of the mailing lists, whether there are any objections against the creation of the TF 2) to work on a refinement of the mandate, tasks to perform, and the expected results 3) to agree on a schedule, set of participants and to find a coordinator. Most of the work should be done by way of exchanging email amongst the TF Partcipants. Following up on expressions of interest as received during the RIPE43 WG session, an initial list of individuals would be put onto the mailing list. [ please see at the bottom of this mail ] Of course, if you are no longer interested - just let us know. Also, if you _are_ interested to join in - but did not or could not indicate your interest in Rhodes, please get back to us asap! Assuming that there would not be a major show-stopper, could I ask the NCC to follow up with any useful info (list name, draft schedule,...) to get us going as soon as possible? Cheers, Wilfried. Initial list of TF particpants: Havard Eidnes <he(a)uninett.no> Hank Nussbacher <hank(a)att.net.il> Gabriella Paolini <gabriella.paolini(a)garr.it> Kristian Rastas <kristian.rastas(a)sonera.com> Nigel Titley Ruediger Volk Wilfried Woeber <woeber(a)cc.univie.ac.at> _________________________________:_____________________________________ Wilfried Woeber : e-mail: Woeber(a)CC.UniVie.ac.at UniVie Computer Center - ACOnet : Tel: +43 1 4277 - 140 33 Universitaetsstrasse 7 : Fax: +43 1 4277 - 9 140 A-1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe : RIPE-DB: WW144, PGP keyID 0xF0ACB369 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Draft Minutes DB-WG RIPE 43
by Nigel Titley 01 Oct '02

01 Oct '02

I'm sure I posted this set of minutes, but I can't find it on the mailing list. So here goes again. Errors and problems to me. I'll give it 2 weeks and then issue the final version. Nigel Database Working Group Meeting Minutes (Draft 1) RIPE-43, Sept. 9 - 13, 2002, Rhodes, GR Thursday, Sept. 12, 2002 09:00-12:30 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A. Administrative stuff (WW, chair) . scribe (offer to take notes received from Nigel) . circulate list of participants, agenda bashing . status of minutes [ see http://www.ripe.net/ripe/wg/db/minutes/ripe-42.html ] . All presentation slides are available on the RIPE NCC web site. B. Action Items . status of actions [AP-41.1 WW] To send list of proposed updates to IRRToolSet to mailing list for WG members to vote on. Deadline 3 weeks. Expired and superceded by AP-43.6 and AP-43.9 [AP-41.2 C&W] To send their proposal to allow referencing external objects in the DB to the mailing list for discussion. Superceded by AP-43.7 and AP-43.8 [AP-41.3 RIPE-NCC] Create Documentation and BCP for IRT object. Ongoing, some work done. [AP-41.4 ALL] Create IRT object and tag inetnum for all appropriate objects. Complete. IRT objects are being created (4 so far) and no problems being reported with process. [AP-41.5 WW] To put together a group to put together a short guidance document to guide reference document writers. This team to include Ruediger. Ongoing, no action yet, nothing from Ruediger. [AP-41.6 RIPE-NCC] Put up a mailing list for the above purpose and advertise to the db-wg list. Ongoing, no action yet [AP-41.9 RIPE-NCC] To document the mirroring protocol and the operational requirements of using it. Ongoing. Some work done. [AP-41.10 RIPE-NCC] Provide nag message to maintainer owners using MAIL-FROM Complete. [AP-41.12 RIPE-NCC] Look at general password authentication methods Ongoing. No action yet. [AP-42.1 ALL] To check own data and correct inconsistencies if possible. Closed [AP-42.2 RIPE-NCC] To send instructions on multiple credentials to the DB working group mailing list. Complete. Instructions are now on the RIPE web site. [AP-42.3 RIPE-NCC] To investigate the issues involved in shadow passwords and multiple level authentication schemes. [AP-42.3 Larry Blunk] To investigate the problems of multiple hashed passwords and the possibilities of embedding an ID within the hash and to submit a proposal to the working group. A proposal came from Janos to embed such information in the remarks field. C. DB update (RIPE NCC, Andrei R.) . operations report Statistics Slightly more objects (1.6M) 80,000 users on average 18q/s average, peaking to 65q/s 2 updates per second average Still some growth in unreferenced personal objects. Need garbage collection process. 70% of queries are for contact information Updates pretty average apart from spike in mntner object caused by removal of mail-from authentication Back-end problems solved. Performance issues with long queries is still to be resolved. Otherwise scaling well User support 6 support staff shared with other software projects Introduced anti-spam filter for mail to ripe-dbm (mail routed to folder) since 20th May 2002 Added ripe-dbm ticket system (shared with hostmaster) MAIL-FROM phasing out process. 1500 maintainers missed the deadline. High fax load on DB staff. Robot now in place. Developments New MD5-PW authentication scheme. 41% of maintainers are using it. New status values for intetnum6 are not now generated. DB consistency and statistics project is now generated useful data RRCC full prototype is now up and running IRRToolset. New version 4.7.3 released. Mostly bug-fixes. The database user manual "Getting Started" has been published. (Dummies guide to the RIPE Database). Real Database user's manual is being progresses IRT Document has been published (functionality and procedures) Plans Further improving of server software (Error reporting, performance, and configuration management). Support auth checks across multiple registries IPv6 and multicast support Automatic database cleanup (if object is not referenced then delete after a certain time (following nag messages to user)). There are other possibilities [AP43.1 RIPE NCC] Look at other possibilities for database cleanup. Additional user support (Documentation, Sync and Web interface) Main Events Improvements in security (MD5 and MAIL-FROM) Documentation and User support Web and syncupdate interfaces. D Web interface and Syncupdates for DB (RIPE NCC, Can Bican) Currently updates are via email Hard to automate Difficult for beginner Syncupdates allows online updates to database, web interface built on top of this TCP based Extensible, maintainable, same functionality, easy to use. Minimal client (HTTP) can be used Notifications are sent by email as usual WebUpdates is a prototype of an update client which allows adding, deleting and updating of an object. Only password authentication. Passwords are stored via cookies. No PGP authentication Multi-line attributes not properly handled Only one object may be updated in a submission All suggestions and feature requests are welcomed. http://webupdates-test.ripe.net http://syncupdates-test.ripe.net Probably one month before coming into production (syncupdates) Webupdates can be earlier, but please send comments to the db tools email address. E. Database Consistency Project Statistics (RIPE NCC, Shane) This refers to data that can be seen as incorrect merely by looking at the database itself (eg not routing inconsistencies) Changes in rules Abandoned data User error Examples Non handle admin-c Syntactic errors Missing or incorrect status attributes Unreferenced person objects Unreferenced maintainer objects CSIRT for no networks Unreferenced PGP key Also non-authoritative Data Prehistoric inetnum (non-RIPE) Objects in unprotected space Possibly unauthorized route objects Abandoned objects Unresponsive maintainers (both LIR and non-LIR) Outdated contacts Solutions Reports RRCC reports Database consistency reports Really only helpful for actively maintained objects Restrict Input Many of these checks already but will soon include integrity checks and RPSS checks Does not address current problems Revocation Allow higher level maintainer to delete objects lower in the hierarchy. (Currently can only be done by ripe-dbm). Unresponsive maintainers? Use another maintainer, or delete maintainer? Cleanups RIPE NCC implementation of WG decision Has been done in the past successfully. Discussion Normally starts on the mailing list, generating proposals which are then voted on at the RIPE meeting. Opinions Why spend a lot of resources to clean it up? It will never be completely clean? Only 5% garbage. Difference between structural problems and operational problems. Garbage can prevent the generation of accurate reverse delegation zone files, and address allocation reports. Even 5% garbage can render these useless. Registration of contact information can be really useful, even if not related to operational data. Should we be removing this data if it is useful? However, privacy issues now pertain to this data. We should also be wary of using the DB as a general key-server. F. "Early Registration Transfer" (ERX) Project (Andrei, RIPE NCC) . Introduction ASN and IP registration inherited by ARIN from Internic Pre-RIR Non-geographical . Goals and Phases Transfer of DB records and conflict resolution Transfer of associated documentation Phase 1 ASN registrations Phase 2 IPv4 registration . AS number migration ARIN only (419 ASNs) just created and protected in the RIPE DB Completed 21st August ARIN & RIPE (conflicting data, no RP) (87 ASNs) merge and lock. Resolve conflict and then unlock Completed 21st August ARIN & RIPE (with RP specifications) (177 ASNs) manual 2 week conflict resolution prior to transfer Completed 21st August 30% of notification emails bounced. Lessons Don't use August..... Often no evidence. Makes resolution very difficult in cases of dispute. Do not lock objects. They may be in use. Some people only wake up at the deadline . IP V4 migration 47 /8s to be transferred Conflicts are likely to be more complex. Transfer of DNS reverse delegations. Group 1 (ARIN only) Create and protect in the RIPE DB Group 2 (Exact match between ARIN and RIPE, except for contact and description) Resolve conflicts and then merge (do not lock) Group 3 (RIPE does not match ARIN) If NCC allocation then keep in RIPE Otherwise delete (after response time) . Discussion Thanks for the RIPE NCC from ARIN for their cooperation Human matching of records cannot necessarily be done by machine. Records that obviously match on visual inspection may not be easily matchable automatically. Two weeks (especially in August) is not enough time to resolve conflicts [AP43.3 RIPE NCC] Provide detailed action plan to the WG before implementing Phase 2. Trying to obtain authorization from contacts in the ARIN database is likely to be difficult, as in many cases the authoritative data is the RIPE database. Hence it may be necessary to extend the time for resolution of conflicts. What happens to IPv4 objects that are in an undefined state after the process? They will remain locked until the holder emerges. At which point the appropriate procedures will be invoked. Is there any chance of getting information about what IP objects will be transferred, prior to the actual transfer process? [AP43.4 RIPE NCC] To produce a list of requirements for such a list. Is there a possibility of automatically aggregating eg /24s in the ARIN database to the appropriate aggregated object in the RIPE DB? Probably not, as there don't seem to be many such objects. This will probably be a manual process. A suggestion that more resource be allocated to the IPv4 migration than was allocated to the ASN migration. [AP43.5 WW] Set up a task force to go through some test cases before hand. It should report on the mailing lists (DB and LIR) within 4 weeks. (Wilfried Woeber, Nigel Titley, Joao Luis Damas at least) Are there any requirements from the outside for target dates? No fixed date, but should get it done as quickly as possible. G. IRRToolSet Development Brainstorming (+ external refs?) . how to find out who is using what? A few people are... one at least is using a home-brew set of tools It was noted that those who are using the toolset are using it together with other tools. This may have to be taken into account. Some things are missing eg Support for zebra [AP-43.6 ALL] Those who have requirements to send to IRRToolSet(a)ripe.net What tools do people find useful? [AP-43.9 RIPE NCC] To try and track down some of the outdated references to the IRRToolset out on the web and get them corrected. . External reference Who needs it? Need at a minimum things like AS-sets which are referred to in the RFC. Need a list of things for which it makes sense and those for which it would be insane (Ruediger Volk) The status of external reference in the RPSS RFC is "out of document scope", although a possible mechanism is described. There is a clear need for this, and the C&W registry is using this syntax. It is also needed in order forms etc (and is already included in some forms from some providers). The RPSS working group needs waking up to properly resolve this issue. Should the DB be prepared to accept this syntax? No real performance issues (Andrei) and not a real problem. The RPSL-dist informal proposal suggests a new "registry" object. [AP-43.7 Ruediger Volk] To produce a short report on what would be useful and how to start. [AP-43.8 RIPE NCC] To investigate how much effort would be required to add this functionality to the RIPE DB. Y. Input from other WGs . None Z. AOB: . Organi[sz]ation object proposal Examples would be a local registry which could be well described in such an object. . IRT object There are only 4 such objects. However no one has had problems creating

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TEST database maintenance
by Andrei Robachevsky 01 Oct '02

01 Oct '02

Dear Colleagues, We plan to have a maintenance of our TEST database server on 7 October, starting from 20:00 till 9:00 next day, 8 October. During this time the following services will be unavailable: - TEST database for queries and updates. - Webupdates and Syncupdates prototypes. - RRCC reports and statistics. - DB Consistency reports and statistics. We apologise for any inconvenience this may cause. Regards, Andrei Robachevsky RIPE NCC

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[Internet-Drafts@ietf.org: I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-crisp-iris-areg-00.txt]
by Stephane Bortzmeyer 13 Sep '02

13 Sep '02

Following the short discussion this morning at RIPE-43, here is a I-DI believe we should discuss here. whois sucks :-) ----- Forwarded message from Internet-Drafts(a)ietf.org ----- Subject: [Ietf-not43] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-crisp-iris-areg-00.txt From: Internet-Drafts(a)ietf.org Reply-To: Internet-Drafts(a)ietf.org To: IETF-Announce: ;IETF-Announce:; Cc: ietf-not43(a)lists.verisignlabs.com Date: Fri, 16 Aug 2002 07:45:33 -0400 X-BeenThere: ietf-not43(a)lists.verisignlabs.com A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the Cross Registry Information Service Protocol Working Group of the IETF. Title : IRIS Address Registry Schema Author(s) : A. Newton Filename : draft-ietf-crisp-iris-areg-00.txt Pages : 18 Date : 15-Aug-02 This document describes an IRIS registry id and schema for registered Internet address information. The schema extends the necessary query and result operations of IRIS (draft-ietf-crisp-iris-core-00.txt) to provide the functional information service needs for syntaxes and results used by Internet address registries. A URL for this Internet-Draft is: http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-crisp-iris-areg-00.txt To remove yourself from the IETF Announcement list, send a message to ietf-announce-request with the word unsubscribe in the body of the message. Internet-Drafts are also available by anonymous FTP. Login with the username "anonymous" and a password of your e-mail address. After logging in, type "cd internet-drafts" and then "get draft-ietf-crisp-iris-areg-00.txt". A list of Internet-Drafts directories can be found in http://www.ietf.org/shadow.html or ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf/1shadow-sites.txt Internet-Drafts can also be obtained by e-mail. Send a message to: mailserv(a)ietf.org. In the body type: "FILE /internet-drafts/draft-ietf-crisp-iris-areg-00.txt". NOTE: The mail server at ietf.org can return the document in MIME-encoded form by using the "mpack" utility. To use this feature, insert the command "ENCODING mime" before the "FILE" command. To decode the response(s), you will need "munpack" or a MIME-compliant mail reader. Different MIME-compliant mail readers exhibit different behavior, especially when dealing with "multipart" MIME messages (i.e. documents which have been split up into multiple messages), so check your local documentation on how to manipulate these messages. Below is the data which will enable a MIME compliant mail reader implementation to automatically retrieve the ASCII version of the Internet-Draft. ----- End forwarded message -----

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Prototype of Whois Server with Revised Parser
by RIPE Database Administration 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

Colleagues, The Whois query parser for the RIPE Database Server has been revised to be more consistent and helpful to users. In the new version, inconsistent queries and invalid input will be detected and reported to the user, rather than silently processed. Users may see different results for inproperly formatted queries; some may result in an error message, and some will be processed with an appropriate warning. The idea is to be as clear as possible, but some users may be confused, and tools may break. We would like your feedback on the changes, so that we can modify the behaviour to provide the clearest and most useful results. Accordingly, we are now running a prototype of the Whois server with the revised parser. It is a mirror of the production server, meaning that it will provide the same results for queries, except where the parser is different. Usage: To access this server, use "whois-beta.ripe.net" as your Whois server. Except as noted on the web page below, queries behave identically to the production server. For full details, please see: http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/db/whois-prototype-2002.html Feedback: Please send any comments or suggestions to <dbrip(a)ripe.net>, or discuss on the Database Working Group mailing list: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/wg/db/index.html We look forward to your feedback. -- Shane Kerr Database Group RIPE NCC

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webupdates & syncupdates
by Can Bican 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

Dear Colleagues, Prototypes for Web Updates and Synchronous Updates have been released, with the announcement available on http://www.ripe.net/db/syncupdates/ . - Web Updates Implementation of "Web Based Updates" intends to help the users of the RIPE Database by providing a convenient and simple to use graphical user interface for updating the database. The graphical user interface combines the help, update and acknowledgement facilities of the database to one graphical user interface. The first prototype is released, available from the url below. Prototype has the minimum functionality to send the updates. Operations currently supported are: * Add/delete/edit objects, * Add/delete/change the order of attributes, * Provide password based authentication, * Help text for each attribute, * Ability to prohibit updates on existing objects, forcing creation. The application can be used from the following URL: http://webupdates-test.ripe.net/ There is also an SSL interface available: https://webupdates-test.ripe.net/ Since this application is currently being developed, your feedback is most important to us. Please send any comments, suggestions, questions and criticisms to dbtools(a)ripe.net. - Synchronous Updates The aim of "Synchronous Updates" is to support updates to the RIPE Database in interactive, or synchronous mode, where the submission and the acknowledgement are communicated synchronously, unlike conventional mail. It also provides a backend for applications like "Web Based Updates". Main goals in developing this tool are: * Compatible with mail updates, having the same functionality, * Easy to program interfaces, * Scalable and controllable, responsive to overuse and/or misuse of resources, For updating the database using the prototype of syncupdates, either use this page: http://www.ripe.net/db/syncupdates/syncupdate-minimal.html or use the perl script, available at: http://www.ripe.net/ripencc/pub-services/db/syncupdates/sup_cli.pl which accepts the update from standard input. Please feel free to send your comments, suggestions, questions and criticisms to dbtools(a)ripe.net. Best Regards, -- Can Bican

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New Document available: RIPE-253
by RIPE NCC Document Announcement Service 05 Sep '02

05 Sep '02

New/Revised RIPE Document Announcement -------------------------------------- A revised/new document is available from the RIPE document store. Ref: ripe-253 Title: RIPE Database User Manual: Getting Started Author: Andrei Robachevsky, Shane Kerr, Vesna Manojlovic Samantha Dickinson Date: 9 September 2002 Format: PS=78771 TXT= Available soon Obsoletes: Obsoleted by: Updates: Updated by: Short content description ------------------------- This document is intended for users who have no previous experience with the RIPE Database. It is a hands-on tutorial that walks the reader through the basic concepts and techniques that are needed to use the RIPE Database using example and exercises. This document is not intended to be a complete reference. Full information on the RIPE Database may be found in the RIPE Database Reference Manual at: http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/databaseref-manual.html Accessing the RIPE document store --------------------------------- You can access the RIPE documents in HTML format via WWW. the "RIPE Database User Manual: Getting Started" is available at the following URL: http://www.ripe.net/docs/db-start.html The RIPE document store is also available via anonymous FTP to ftp.ripe.net, in the directory ripe/docs. The URLs for the new documents on the FTP-server are: ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-253.ps PostScript version ftp://ftp.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-253.txt plain text version Please note that the .txt version will be available as soon as possible. Kind Regards, Jeroen Bet RIPE NCC Webmaster

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draft agenda (v1), for DB-WG meeting, RIPE 43, Rhodes, GR
by Wilfried Woeber, UniVie/ACOnet 26 Aug '02

26 Aug '02

Dear WG list members, attached please find the 1st draft: Proposed Agenda for the DB-WG Meeting at RIPE 43 in Rhodes, GR. As usual, if you have any comments, corrections or additions please get back to me directly. Looking forward to see many of you in Greece, Wilfried. ______________________________________________________________________ Proposed Agenda for the Database Working Group Meeting RIPE-43, Sept. 9 - 13, 2002, Rhodes, GR 1. Draft Thursday, Sept. 12, 2002 09:00-12:30 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ A. Administrative stuff (WW, chair) 10 min . scribe (offer to take notes received from Nigel) Slot 1 . circulate list of participants, agenda bashing . status of minutes [ see http://www.ripe.net/ripe/wg/db/minutes/ripe-42.html ] B. Action Items 15 min . status of actions Slot 1 [ see http://www.ripe.net/ripe/wg/db/db-actions.html ] C. DB update (RIPE NCC, Andrei R.) 15..20 min . operations report Slot 1 . development activities D Web interface for updates (RIPE NCC, Can Bican) 15min(??) Slot 1 E. IRRToolSet Development Brainstorming 20min . how to find out who is using what? Slot 1 . RPSLng interaction F. External Object References 10min [ maybe this should go into item E.?? ] G. "Early Registration Transfer" Project 45 min . review of experience with AS Number transfer probably . proposal for IP Address Space by NCC Slot 2 . develop recommendations to - complete the transfer as quickly as reasonably possible? - limit the work-load impact on the users' end - limit the work-load impact on the NCC's end Y. Input from other WGs . Z. AOB: . ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ WW, 26-AUG-2002 12:13:25 UTC _________________________________:_____________________________________ Wilfried Woeber : e-mail: Woeber(a)CC.UniVie.ac.at UniVie Computer Center - ACOnet : Tel: +43 1 4277 - 140 33 Universitaetsstrasse 7 : Fax: +43 1 4277 - 9 140 A-1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe : RIPE-DB: WW144, PGP keyID 0xF0ACB369 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Only one thing in life is certain: init is Process #1"

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RE: Proposal for adding external repository reference to import/e xpor t attributes
by Lu, Ping 25 Aug '02

25 Aug '02

Right now, I think we only need to implement the "::" notation in the RFC2725. For this I think RFC2725 is the result of the standard process and there is no need to re-open RPSL WG to repeat that again. However the reason we proposed to implement "::" notation is to address the need for EXTERNAL REFERENCE. For that I think it might be necessary to start the WG discussion on how do we support the EXTERNAL REFERENCE in the near future. Let's just start implementing the "::" notation while we can also start the discussion on the topics of EXTERNAL REFERENCE. I don't know if here is the proper place to start the discussion or we should go somewhere else ? Ping Lu Cable & Wireless USA Network Tools and Analysis Group W: +1-703-292-2359 E: plu(a)cw.net > -----Original Message----- > From: Mark Prior [mailto:mrp@mrp.net] > Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 8:08 AM > To: curtis(a)fictitious.org > Cc: Lu, Ping; db-wg(a)ripe.net; irrtoolset(a)ripe.net > Subject: Re: Proposal for adding external repository reference to > import/expor t attributes > > > At 3:10 PM -0400 23/8/02, Curtis Villamizar wrote: > >It is possible to reactivate a WG on the mailing list only, for the > >purpose of updating an existing RFC and not having a meeting. This > >was done with TCPLW for RFC1323. Cengiz would need to > update RPSL (as > >primary author and keeper of the source of that document). > > > >Is the only change needed at this point the :: notation to indicate > >external repository? If so, no change is needed to RFC-2622 > since the > >:: notation is called for in RFC-2725 and it wouldn't be worth > >updating RFC-2622 just for that. > > > >What you really need to do is get Larry Blunk to update the > ISI tools. > > Curtis, > > I wasn't the person suggesting making changes, I was just suggesting > that you needed to follow a procedure in order to make it happen and > couldn't just "fix" it in software. I would suggest if people think > this is a good idea (and I haven't really thought about it) then > perhaps merging it into the RPSLng work would be the way to go. > > Mark. > >

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Re: Proposal for adding external repository reference to import/expor t attributes
by Mark Prior 24 Aug '02

24 Aug '02

At 3:10 PM -0400 23/8/02, Curtis Villamizar wrote: >It is possible to reactivate a WG on the mailing list only, for the >purpose of updating an existing RFC and not having a meeting. This >was done with TCPLW for RFC1323. Cengiz would need to update RPSL (as >primary author and keeper of the source of that document). > >Is the only change needed at this point the :: notation to indicate >external repository? If so, no change is needed to RFC-2622 since the >:: notation is called for in RFC-2725 and it wouldn't be worth >updating RFC-2622 just for that. > >What you really need to do is get Larry Blunk to update the ISI tools. Curtis, I wasn't the person suggesting making changes, I was just suggesting that you needed to follow a procedure in order to make it happen and couldn't just "fix" it in software. I would suggest if people think this is a good idea (and I haven't really thought about it) then perhaps merging it into the RPSLng work would be the way to go. Mark.

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