Hi William

If we are going to follow the NWI then lets define the problem and then look at available options to fix it. There are other ways to fix it and each option has pros and cons.

cheers

denis

I support this. 

William

On Nov 2, 2016, at 5:53 AM, Sebastian Wiesinger <sebastian@karotte.org> wrote:

I'm currently struggling with abuse-c management for a big
organisation which wants multiple abuse contacts for different parts
of the organisation. The org is using a lot of PI resources, some of
them legacy. Currently they all use the same org object which is
inextricably linked to the same abuse-c mailbox.

They have a new field of business which is mostly decoupled from the
rest (own AS, own routers, PI space, etc.) but still uses the same org
object.

As cumbersome as having to create a new org object  would be, I
would've gone this road but as all of them are PI I can't change the
org object! It is managed by the RIPE NCC. So the only solution right
now would be to ask the RIPE NCC to change the org for all objects to
a new one just to change the abuse-c for the resources. I would not be
surprised if this turns out to be more complicated because of the
end-user contract stuff but I'll need input from the NCC how they
handle such cases.

Also having multiple org objects that have the same data (company
name, address, phone,...) just to have a different abuse-c is
something that irks me to no end. Now I have to update X orgs when the
phone number or address changes. Also: redundant data in the database!

I tried to follow past discussions regarding this but it seems they
all kind of fizzed out without any conclusion?

I would propose to fix this and add an abuse-c to resource objects
that would be "more specific" than the org abuse-c and overrides it.
If there are other ideas please don't hesitate to state them but to me
it seems like a low-cost solution to this mess.

Best Regards

Sebastian

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