On Tue, 29 Nov 2022, 19:56 Cynthia Revström, <me@cynthia.re> wrote:
I agree with Nick.
However there are currently as-set objects in RIPE based on aut-num
objects in RIPE-NONAUTH.
I think it might be worth considering if these should be cleaned up.

As an intermediate step we could set the source to RIPE-NONAUTH for any existing AS-SET objects related to ASNs with that source. 

Cheers
denis 
Co-chair DB-WG 

I posted about this about a week ago in a separate thread on db-wg.

-Cynthia

On Tue, Nov 29, 2022 at 7:30 PM Nick Hilliard via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
>
> denis walker wrote on 29/11/2022 13:00:
> > If we allow these objects to authorise hierarchical AS-SET objects with
> > 'source: RIPE' we have in effect turned non authoritative data back into
> > authoritative data. If we give the related AS-SET objects 'source:
> > RIPE-NONAUTH' we make it clear that these objects are also not
> > authoritative. Consumers of the data should make their own informed
> > decisions about the content of these AS-SET objects.
> if ASnnnnn has source: RIPE-NONAUTH, then the corresponding as-set would
> be ASnnnnn:FOOBAR, so this would also need to be RIPE-NONAUTH.
>
> I don't see an issue with RIPE-NONAUTH aut-nums being able to create
> scoped RIPE-NONAUTH as-sets.  This also gives a clear route for garbage
> collection: if the aut-num becomes invalid, then the corresponding
> as-sets also become invalid.
>
> IIRC it's not possible to create new aut-num objects with source:
> RIPE-NONAUTH?
>
> Nick
>
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