I agree with Peter. I assume the NCC legal team thinks this is what is needed to allow for geofeeds for /48s and such, and if so I am happy with that. -Cynthia On Thu, Nov 2, 2023 at 10:03 PM Peter Hessler via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
Hi Denis,
That text seems fine to me. I think the key point is "publishing geolocation information", which allows the wider public to get access.
My main question is basically: once the new T&C is announced are we then allowed to add geolocation information, specifically the geofeed attribute, to PI IPv4 /24 and PI IPv6 /48 netblocks?
If yes, then I think this will suffice for the community.
-peter
On 2023 Nov 02 (Thu) at 21:54:43 +0100 (+0100), denis walker via db-wg wrote: :Colleagues : :The discussion and agreement of the text for a new purpose for the :RIPE Database covering geolocation was done by the RIPE NCC and it's :executive board. They refused to publish the text in advance, didn't :announce that the board had agreed to it or that the T&C document has :been updated. I still don't understand why this had to be done so :secretly. : :Anyway this is the text of the new purpose from the T&C, :https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/db/support/documentation/terms : :"Facilitating network operations by publishing geolocation information :about the usage of Internet number resources (including country, :region, city of the party to which the resources have been distributed :by the Registrants)" : :Does this cover what you all wanted from the new "geofeed:" attribute? :"Facilitating network operations" suggests this information is only :for use by network operators in the management of their networks. Any :use of this geolocation information by the wider public or other :geolocation information providers is therefore not covered by this :purpose. : :AFAIK this change to the T&C has not yet been announced by the RIPE :NCC as required by Article 8.2. So the new purpose is not yet in :effect. : :cheers :denis :co-chair DB-WG
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