Hi, On Wed, May 25, 2022 at 04:50:57PM +0200, Cynthia Revström wrote:
P.S. Yes all of these networks could just use role objects and as such not have to publish phone numbers but I argued for why they shouldn't be required as it seemed to me like Gert didn't quite understand why I think it is a bad idea to require them, beyond the inconsistency.
Maybe I expressed myself badly. I was primarily describing my use case "why would I want to look at *anything* in the RIPE-DB" - and that is, usually, because something is broken and I find myself in the need to contact people. In that situation, their network might be broken (or mine, or something in between) so e-mail or a web form might just not work - this is why we have a phone system. If nothing is broken, I do not look at person or role objects at all. That said, of course having "no phone number" is a better data set than "a phone number that looks good to the DB but is useless" :-) *That* said - if people do not want to be contacted about issues with their network, then we should ask ourselves if putting these contacts into the RIPE-DB is the correct thing to do - phone numbers or not - to me this is the prime reason we store contact data there, to reach responsible persons/teams when there is something with their network that needs attention. On this particular discussion: I agree that it makes no sense to have the phone number optional on a role: (*this* is usually a NOC that has a phone...) and mandatory on a person: - make it optional on both. Gert Doering -- NetMaster -- have you enabled IPv6 on something today...? SpaceNet AG Vorstand: Sebastian v. Bomhard, Michael Emmer Joseph-Dollinger-Bogen 14 Aufsichtsratsvors.: A. Grundner-Culemann D-80807 Muenchen HRB: 136055 (AG Muenchen) Tel: +49 (0)89/32356-444 USt-IdNr.: DE813185279