Hello, and thank you for your answer. But I think I need to be spoonfed about this… This is the role object I want to create, with the NIC-HDL I want to use: ROLE: Aalesund Admin Contacts ADDRESS: Postboks 1521 address: 6015 address: Aalesund E-MAIL: ripe@alesund.kommune.no admin-c: Dal NIC-HDL: AALESUND-ADMIN-C MNT-BY: no-alesund-kommune-1-mnt SOURCE: RIPE So according to the rules, the NIC-handle can be something like this: ALE-ADMIN-C ? I want to get this right, since I’m about to make several objects, and want to follow some sort of template. Thank you. - Øystein Fra: ripedenis@yahoo.co.uk [mailto:ripedenis@yahoo.co.uk] Sendt: lørdag 30. april 2016 03.06 Til: Øystein Gåsdal <dal@alesund.kommune.no>; 'db-wg@ripe.net' <db-wg@ripe.net> Emne: Re: [db-wg] Is it possible to choose your own NIC Handle when creating ROLE objects? Hi Øystein Whoever told you that is mistaken. If you type "-v role" in the web query form it shows you the allowed syntax for a ROLE object's "nic-hdl:" attribute: From 2 to 4 characters optionally followed by up to 6 digits optionally followed by a source specification. The first digit must not be "0". Source specification starts with "-" followed by source name up to 9-character length. So you can set any Nic Handle you wish as long as it follows these rules and it doesn't already exist and has never existed (they cannot be reused after deletion). cheers denis ________________________________ From: Øystein Gåsdal <dal@alesund.kommune.no<mailto:dal@alesund.kommune.no>> To: "'db-wg@ripe.net'" <db-wg@ripe.net<mailto:db-wg@ripe.net>> Sent: Saturday, 30 April 2016, 1:00 Subject: [db-wg] Is it possible to choose your own NIC Handle when creating ROLE objects? Hi I’m trying to create some ROLE objects, but encounter an error: nic-hdl: Syntax error I was told from support that in ROLE and PERSON object, I must use AUTO-1 as NIC handle. This information is not correct for the PERSON object, since I choose my own NIC handle when I created my own PERSON object. So is there a way around this for the ROLE object, too? Thanks. - Øystein