Hi On Wed, 25 May 2022 at 17:07, Gert Doering <gert@space.net> wrote:
*That* said - if people do not want to be contacted about issues with their network, then we should ask ourselves if putting these contacts into the RIPE-DB is the correct thing to do - phone numbers or not - to me this is the prime reason we store contact data there, to reach responsible persons/teams when there is something with their network that needs attention.
It may be that a network operator simply doesn't have the capability to operate a tech support desk 24/7. That doesn't mean they don't want to be contacted or that they don't want to know there is a problem. If you detect an issue at 8pm, they are not available to fix it this evening so no point listing a phone number. If you send them an email they can look into the issue tomorrow. So there is still value in listing their (email) contact details in the database.
On this particular discussion: I agree that it makes no sense to have the phone number optional on a role: (*this* is usually a NOC that has a phone...) and mandatory on a person: - make it optional on both.
For now yes I agree to make it optional in both. In the long term we need to get rid of the PERSON object then we won't have discrepancies cheers denis proposal author.