Hi All

As Job said it is at an early discussion stage. If we do this using
the NWI mechanism then the Problem statement and then a Solution
definition will be discussed on the mailing list by anyone with an
interest in this issue. Someone has to put forward a first draft for
discussion.

Once these are agreed, we have three options:
A-The RIPE NCC does the design and implementation
B-A small group (Task Force?) of community people, with the RIPE NCC,
does the design and implementation
C-We have design by committee on the mailing list

Let's discuss the problem and solution ideas and then most likely
option B is the way to move forward.

cheers
denis
co-chair DB-WG

On Sat, 7 Nov 2020 at 16:00, Job Snijders via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
>
> Hi Cynthia,
>
> The NRTM v4 initiative is in an awkward early stage where various
> parties (with *no* obligations towards each other!) are attempting to
> set the stage for the future existence of an inter-operable successor to
> the NRTM v3 protocol.
>
> As indicated before, the nature of this call was informal, akin to a
> hallway meeting at a conference. Decisions about the RIPE NCC database
> are made on the db-wg@ipe.net mailing list. It was a courtesy to this
> group to indicate some volunteers would have a call to help progress
> things. You too were free to join. Hallway meetings are not recorded.
>
> I'm interested to hear your opinions on-list or off-list! :-)
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Job
>
> On Sat, Nov 07, 2020 at 10:36:43AM +0100, Cynthia Revström wrote:
> > I would like to see more here on the mailing list, so I would request that
> > any future calls be recorded and published.
> >
> > I have opinions on this subject and I don't think me missing the call
> > should leave me out of the loop.
> >
> > - Cynthia
> >
> > On Fri, Nov 6, 2020, 11:31 Stavros Konstantaras <
> > stavros.konstantaras@ams-ix.net> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Cynthia,
> > >
> > > Yes the call happened and the problem description is almost ready. Soon
> > > will be published here in the mailing list so the DB-WG chairs can
> > > officially create a new NWI and submit it to RIPE NCC developers
> > >
> > > Thank you for your support and your interest on that :)
> > >
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > >
> > > Stavros Konstantaras | Sr. Network Engineer | AMS-IX
> > > M +31 (0) 620 89 51 04 | T +31 20 305 8999
> > > ams-ix.net
> > >
> > > On 6 Nov 2020, at 02:51, Cynthia Revström via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > I also support creating a new NWI for a modernized NRTM like service.
> > >
> > > - Cynthia
> > >
> > > On Fri, 6 Nov 2020, 02:50 Cynthia Revström, <me@cynthia.re> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Job,
> > >>
> > >> Was there a call about this yet?
> > >>
> > >> And if so, was there any outcome?
> > >>
> > >> - Cynthia
> > >>
> > >> On Thu, 29 Oct 2020, 20:38 Job Snijders via db-wg, <db-wg@ripe.net>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> On Thu, Oct 29, 2020 at 06:30:28PM +0100, denis walker wrote:
> > >>> > I would suggest we create NWI-12 to move forward with a new version of
> > >>> > NRTM. Perhaps you could write the first draft of the problem
> > >>> > statement?
> > >>>
> > >>> Given that more people than just myself were engaged with this subject
> > >>> so far... maybe Stavros, Emil, a DB-WG chair, myself and any other
> > >>> interested parties can have a 1 hour group phone call to formulate an
> > >>> updated problem statement for NWI-12?
> > >>>
> > >>> Perhaps next week, November 4th, 15:00 UTC? Consider it a "hallway
> > >>> chat", not something formal. The chairs can report back to the mailing
> > >>> list.
> > >>>
> > >>> Kind regards,
> > >>>
> > >>> Job
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >
>