Hello Jeroen,
On 18 Nov 2025, at 11:15, Jeroen Massar <jeroen@massar.ch> wrote:
On 18 Nov 2025, at 09:43, Edward Shryane <eshryane@ripe.net> wrote: [..] Here is an example for the RIPE NCC itself, adding a reg-nr: attribute :
organisation: ORG-RIEN1-RIPE org-name: Reseaux IP Europeens Network Coordination Centre (RIPE NCC) country: NL org-type: LIR descr: RIPE NCC Operations address: P.O. Box 10096 address: 1001 EB address: Amsterdam address: NETHERLANDS reg-nr: 40539632 # added registration number
[..] The country: code is NL, so the registry is the KvK : Go to https://www.kvk.nl/en/search/ and enter "40539632".
TLDR of below: - reg-nr needs a reg-location with details of where that number belongs to - reg-nr might be 'natural person' to indicate that situation - then no 'reg-nr' indicates an unmaintained/not-updated object - next to reg-nr - even with those details shady "companies" will remain shady as long as it is acceptable to register them as such.
Thank you for the examples. We propose to only include the registration number, in addition to the existing country code. We should not link to registry websites as they are external to the RIPE database and subject to change. Every registry website is different, and some do not allow linking directly to an organisation or may require registration. This can be better done by the database client for regions of interest to the user. The organisation object already contains the country code from the legal address, so this does not need to be repeated in the reg-nr attribute. However we can include the region for countries where this is necessary and where we have the information internally (e.g. Hamburg HRA12345). We will review this as part of the impact analysis. Information about natural persons is out of scope of this proposal. Regards Ed Shryane RIPE NCC