Hi Ángel

On Fri, 29 Jul 2022, 16:36 Ángel González Berdasco via db-wg, <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
On 29-07-2022 02:32 +0200, denis walker wrote:
> This purpose would cover:
> -"geofeed:"
> -"geoloc:"
> -"language:"
> -"abuse-c:"
> -IRT object
> -use of ROLE objects for contacts for external services like RIPE
> Atlas
>
>  None of the above list are covered by any of the purposes currently
> defined in the T&C. We would then have to define somewhere the
> 'agreed set of external services'.


FWIW, I think abuse-c and IRT could be covered by:

- Facilitating coordination between network operators (network problem
resolution, outage notification etc.)

since abuse originating from the network can be considered a "network
problem".

To me it's the 'could' that is the problem. A clear specific purpose takes the doubt out of many of the interpretations of this generalised purpose. 

Interestingly, the purpose

- Providing information about the Registrant and Maintainer of Internet
number resources when the resources are suspected of being used for
unlawful activities, to parties who are authorised under the law to
receive such information.

fells short since "the team who actually deals with issues in this
network" (abuse, noc, etc.) is often neither the Registrant itself nor
the Maintainer.

I agree. I made many mistakes writing the original T&C, especially involving the 'maintainer'. These have never been discussed or fixed since. 

Cheers
denis 
Co- chair DB-WG 

Best regards


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