Hi, I would like to discuss the possible changes to the RIPE Database for the LIRs or brokers sending targeted spam with proposed address resources transactions. As far as I know, RIPE DB T&C does not contain a statement about restricting the use of RIPE DB for those abusive traders. Should the community request the NCC to develop how to limit RIPE DB usage? Please feel free to comment. -- Kind regards, Sergey Myasoedov
In principal I agree with this and it makes sense, however when ARIN has done this it hasn't really made any noticeable difference. On Wed, 13 Sep 2023, 20:10 Sergey Myasoedov via db-wg, <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
Hi,
I would like to discuss the possible changes to the RIPE Database for the LIRs or brokers sending targeted spam with proposed address resources transactions.
As far as I know, RIPE DB T&C does not contain a statement about restricting the use of RIPE DB for those abusive traders. Should the community request the NCC to develop how to limit RIPE DB usage?
Please feel free to comment.
-- Kind regards, Sergey Myasoedov --
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As far as I know, ARIN implemented such limits only once (*), which helped at least for some time. Please correct me if I'm wrong. -- Kind regards, Sergey Myasoedov * https://regmedia.co.uk/2020/01/08/arin-cogent.pdf
On Sep 13, 2023, at 14:19, Ben Cartwright-Cox via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
In principal I agree with this and it makes sense, however when ARIN has done this it hasn't really made any noticeable difference.
On Wed, 13 Sep 2023, 20:10 Sergey Myasoedov via db-wg, <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote: Hi,
I would like to discuss the possible changes to the RIPE Database for the LIRs or brokers sending targeted spam with proposed address resources transactions.
As far as I know, RIPE DB T&C does not contain a statement about restricting the use of RIPE DB for those abusive traders. Should the community request the NCC to develop how to limit RIPE DB usage?
Please feel free to comment.
-- Kind regards, Sergey Myasoedov
Hi Sergey The RIPE Database is a public registry. It allows anyone to query it anonymously from a unix terminal window, for example, from any IP address. As long as such access is permitted there is physically and technically no means to limit access by any individual person. The T&C DO contain the right to limit access. Article 4.4 says "Users may not use the RIPE Database or the data contained therein for advertising, direct marketing, marketing research or similar purposes." The situation you are talking about would come under 'direct marketing'. Article 5.2 says "The RIPE NCC may withdraw the service provided hereunder from a User at any time and is entitled, in its sole discretion, to terminate or slow down a User's Access to the RIPE Database for any reason, particularly a failure to adhere to the Terms and Conditions." So we have the rights, but there is no way to do it. If you want to take some action against LIRs or brokers for direct marketing you need to look somewhere else for penalties to apply to them. cheers denis co-chair DB-WG On Wed, 13 Sept 2023 at 20:09, Sergey Myasoedov via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
Hi,
I would like to discuss the possible changes to the RIPE Database for the LIRs or brokers sending targeted spam with proposed address resources transactions.
As far as I know, RIPE DB T&C does not contain a statement about restricting the use of RIPE DB for those abusive traders. Should the community request the NCC to develop how to limit RIPE DB usage?
Please feel free to comment.
-- Kind regards, Sergey Myasoedov --
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Sergey Myasoedov