new NWI? - was: mntner object updates by mail
Dear WG Members After a nice chat just a seconds after DB-WG session has ended it was brought to the attention of few of us that there was an email sent last December by Ulf Kieber (with some responses) about mntner object updates by mail. Dear Chairs, can we proceed with that and make it next NWI? Piotr -- Piotr Strzyżewski Silesian University of Technology, Computer Centre Gliwice, Poland
All, We will get this started as a NWI. Thanks, William Db-wg Co-Chair On Oct 25, 2017, at 3:47 PM, Piotr Strzyzewski via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net<mailto:db-wg@ripe.net>> wrote: Dear WG Members After a nice chat just a seconds after DB-WG session has ended it was brought to the attention of few of us that there was an email sent last December by Ulf Kieber (with some responses) about mntner object updates by mail. Dear Chairs, can we proceed with that and make it next NWI? Piotr -- Piotr Strzyżewski Silesian University of Technology, Computer Centre Gliwice, Poland
Hi all Putting together several points from today: -dropping ASN auth for ROUTE creation -wanting to know as precisely as possible who made a change -updating MNTNER objects by email -previous discussions on personal auth (which was also mentioned today) maybe we could do a wider review on the auth model and build all these points into it...just a thought... cheers denis co-chair DB WG On 25 October 2017 at 13:51, William Sylvester via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
All,
We will get this started as a NWI.
Thanks, William Db-wg Co-Chair
On Oct 25, 2017, at 3:47 PM, Piotr Strzyzewski via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
Dear WG Members
After a nice chat just a seconds after DB-WG session has ended it was brought to the attention of few of us that there was an email sent last December by Ulf Kieber (with some responses) about mntner object updates by mail.
Dear Chairs, can we proceed with that and make it next NWI?
Piotr
-- Piotr Strzyżewski Silesian University of Technology, Computer Centre Gliwice, Poland
Dear Denis, On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 2:08 PM, den is via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
Putting together several points from today:
-dropping ASN auth for ROUTE creation -wanting to know as precisely as possible who made a change -updating MNTNER objects by email -previous discussions on personal auth (which was also mentioned today)
maybe we could do a wider review on the auth model and build all these points into it...just a thought...
While I appreciate any efforts to improve both security and the end-user experience, I do not see the need to lump "deprecate ASN auth for ROUTE creation" is a broader project and thereby risking that it'll never get done. It is a concise, incremental change in the model and we should treat it as such. Kind regards, Job
Hi Job Good point and I agree. cheers denis co-chair DB WG On 25 October 2017 at 14:13, Job Snijders <job@instituut.net> wrote:
Dear Denis,
On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 2:08 PM, den is via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
Putting together several points from today:
-dropping ASN auth for ROUTE creation -wanting to know as precisely as possible who made a change -updating MNTNER objects by email -previous discussions on personal auth (which was also mentioned today)
maybe we could do a wider review on the auth model and build all these points into it...just a thought...
While I appreciate any efforts to improve both security and the end-user experience, I do not see the need to lump "deprecate ASN auth for ROUTE creation" is a broader project and thereby risking that it'll never get done. It is a concise, incremental change in the model and we should treat it as such.
Kind regards,
Job
I also would like the work to deprecate ASN auth for ROUTE creation, and the associated foreign object tagging to distinct source: work to be a discrete item (or pair of items) and not "glommed" into a collection of other things. Because there are two other RIR who run variants of the RIPE-NCC code, we have downstream consequential issues in the integration of patches into our own codebase (we're forked. it turned out to be too hard to maintain a single code tree) and its simpler if this stuff is done logistically in smaller tractable chunks. cheers -george On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 10:16 PM, den is via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
Hi Job
Good point and I agree.
cheers denis co-chair DB WG
On 25 October 2017 at 14:13, Job Snijders <job@instituut.net> wrote:
Dear Denis,
On Wed, Oct 25, 2017 at 2:08 PM, den is via db-wg <db-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
Putting together several points from today:
-dropping ASN auth for ROUTE creation -wanting to know as precisely as possible who made a change -updating MNTNER objects by email -previous discussions on personal auth (which was also mentioned today)
maybe we could do a wider review on the auth model and build all these points into it...just a thought...
While I appreciate any efforts to improve both security and the end-user experience, I do not see the need to lump "deprecate ASN auth for ROUTE creation" is a broader project and thereby risking that it'll never get done. It is a concise, incremental change in the model and we should treat it as such.
Kind regards,
Job
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William Sylvester