report on nic handle reuse in the RIPE DB
Dear all, for your reading pleasure :-) This issue came up during the last RIPE meeting. Best regards, Joao Damas RIPE DB Group Manager RIPE NCC
Hello, I haves questions about the current operation of the RIPE-Database:
From ripe-157: RIPE NIC-handle: <Initials><0-999>-RIPE
There are person-objects in the RIPE-Database that do not conform to this format, eg. AA-RIPE and MB10000-RIPE. The numbers greater than 999 are no problem, but Handles without number are a nuissance, e.g. when testing for a valid format in a field... So, are Handles without a number offically allowed ?
If you require a detailed acknowledgement, put the keyword "LONGACK" in the `Subject' line of your e-mail.
We have a script for sending mail to auto-dbm@ripe.net, and it always uses LONGACK - so the answer-mails should all look alike. But as a result, we get mails in different formats, e.g. short:
From: RIPE Database Management <ripe-dbm@ripe.net> To: Nacamar Guardian <gurt@gargoyle.nacamar.de> Subject: SUCCEEDED: LONGACK .. The following objects were processed.
New OK: [person] IB179-RIPE (Ivonne Bankwitz) <<< Sometimes the reply ist "long", it also quotes the content of our mail:
Date: 17 Sep 1999 08:12:10 -0000 From: RIPE Database Management <ripe-dbm@ripe.net> To: Nacamar Guardian <gurt@gargoyle.nacamar.de> Subject: SUCCEEDED: LONGACK .. The following objects were processed.
New OK: [person] IB179-RIPE (Ivonne Bankwitz) person: Ivonne Bankwitz ... <<< I have no idea, why, and on what condition the database returns the "short" or the "full" answer. Can someone tell ? Best Regards, HaJo Gurt ------------------------------------------------------------------- Nacamar Network Administration NACAMAR Data Communications guardian@nacamar.net Robert-Bosch-Str. 32 D-63303 Dreieich Hans-Joachim Gurt Germany gurt@nacamar.de http://www.nacamar.de ***** NEUE Telefon+Faxnummern: ***** NEW Phone+Faxnumbers: ***** Voice: +49 6103 916 0 Fax: +49 6103 916 222 ------------------------------------------------------------------- Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; and when it is bad, it is better than nothing. - Dick Brandon
Hi, On Fri, Sep 17, 1999 at 01:30:51PM +0200, Nacamar AS Guardian wrote:
Hello,
I haves questions about the current operation of the RIPE-Database:
From ripe-157: RIPE NIC-handle: <Initials><0-999>-RIPE
There are person-objects in the RIPE-Database that do not conform to this format, eg. AA-RIPE and MB10000-RIPE.
And don't forget the elder Handles without -RIPE Suffix. Greetings, Jens
Dear Hans-Joachim, Nacamar AS Guardian <guardian@nacamar.de> writes: * * Hello, * * I haves questions about the current operation of the RIPE-Database: * * >From ripe-157: * > RIPE NIC-handle: <Initials><0-999>-RIPE * * There are person-objects in the RIPE-Database that do not * conform to this format, eg. AA-RIPE and MB10000-RIPE. Since we have more than 10000 person objects with MB initials, we allow numbers grater than 9999 in the NIC handles. * * The numbers greater than 999 are no problem, * but Handles without number are a nuissance, * e.g. when testing for a valid format in a field... * * So, are Handles without a number offically allowed ? * Yes, they are allowed. If you ask for a specific NIC handle without a number it will give you that (if it is available), however if you want the software to assign a NIC handle automatically, it assigns a NIC handle always with a number. * * > If you require a detailed acknowledgement, put the * > keyword "LONGACK" in the `Subject' line of your e-mail. * * We have a script for sending mail to auto-dbm@ripe.net, * and it always uses LONGACK - so the answer-mails * should all look alike. * But as a result, we get mails in different formats, e.g. short: * >>> * From: RIPE Database Management <ripe-dbm@ripe.net> * To: Nacamar Guardian <gurt@gargoyle.nacamar.de> * Subject: SUCCEEDED: LONGACK * .. * The following objects were processed. * * New OK: [person] IB179-RIPE (Ivonne Bankwitz) * <<< * * Sometimes the reply ist "long", it also quotes the content of our mail: * >>> * Date: 17 Sep 1999 08:12:10 -0000 * From: RIPE Database Management <ripe-dbm@ripe.net> * To: Nacamar Guardian <gurt@gargoyle.nacamar.de> * Subject: SUCCEEDED: LONGACK * .. * The following objects were processed. * * New OK: [person] IB179-RIPE (Ivonne Bankwitz) * * person: Ivonne Bankwitz * ... * <<< * * I have no idea, why, and on what condition the database * returns the "short" or the "full" answer. * Can someone tell ? * If there is no warning, than short format is used, but if there is a warning (such as "current date added to changed field") the software returns the acknowledgement along with the warnings and the object created or updated. If you have any more questions, please don't hesitate to contact <ripe-dbm@ripe.net>. Regards, Engin Gunduz ____________________________ RIPE Database Administration. * * Best Regards, * HaJo Gurt * * ------------------------------------------------------------------- * Nacamar Network Administration NACAMAR Data Communications * guardian@nacamar.net Robert-Bosch-Str. 32 * D-63303 Dreieich * Hans-Joachim Gurt Germany * gurt@nacamar.de http://www.nacamar.de * * ***** NEUE Telefon+Faxnummern: ***** NEW Phone+Faxnumbers: ***** * Voice: +49 6103 916 0 Fax: +49 6103 916 222 * ------------------------------------------------------------------- * Documentation is like sex: when it is good, it is very, very good; * and when it is bad, it is better than nothing. - Dick Brandon * * * --============_-1274641660==_============-- *
participants (4)
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Jens Hoffmann
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Joao Luis Silva Damas
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Nacamar AS Guardian
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RIPE Database Administration