Re: [db-wg] The New "organisation object" Proposal
Ulrich Kiermayr <ulrich.kiermayr@univie.ac.at> writes: * Hi Engin, * * >>so the idea would be to seperate the reference authorisation from the * >>object-maintainer. Like in the irt-object one could introduce an 'auth:' * >>attribute to check the tagging. * > * > * > OK, that makes sense too. * > * > How about introducing "mnt-ref:" attribute for this purpose? That is, * > "mnt-by:" will protect/control the organisation object itself. * > And, "mnt-ref:" will control the references to this organisation * > object. Thus, an LIR org object might be: * > * > organisation: ORG-AA11-RIPE * > [...] * > org-type: LIR * > mnt-by: RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT * > mnt-ref: LIR-MNT * > mnt-ref: RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT * * This makes a lot of sense as well. * * > To maintain consistency, perhaps we could do the same in irt * > objects: Change the "auth:" attr into "mnt-ref:" and have mntner * > names in it (rather than auth methods directly). Also, "irt-nfy:" * > might be changed into "ref-nfy:", again for consistency. But perhaps * > this is out of scope... * * Hmm, if we waht to change the behaviour for consistency, we should do it * now, when the irt is not to widely used. * * If we agree on this more generic solution, we could extend this behavior * to other Objects that can be referenced as well. * e.g. for mntner: itself. this would be a way tho prevent anyone from * putting my mntner ont oan object. (This would solve the issue discussed * in the context of the IRT Object - where the mntner of the object should * be a proof of authenticity as well) * [snip] It may be a bit of an overkill to add mnt-ref: to the mntner: as in most cases people would probably make it refer to itself, although it would be consistent. Another option to prevent un-authorised use (malicious or accidental) of a mntner is to require the mntner's own authorisation to be provided whenever it is added to an object. cheers denis
Hi Denis,
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It may be a bit of an overkill to add mnt-ref: to the mntner: as in most cases people would probably make it refer to itself, although it would be consistent. Another option to prevent un-authorised use (malicious or accidental) of a mntner is to require the mntner's own authorisation to be provided whenever it is added to an object.
I agree, that it looks like an overkill, but I'd prefer to see a consistent behaviour among all the objects. [I cold also imagine cases, where they might as well differ]. On the other hand i could also imagine a fallback-scheme like in the mnt-lower: if no mnt-ref, them use the mntner itself or so.... One thing i have not checked: Is a ref-nfy in a mntner redundant informaiton (e.g already coverd by notify there)? lG uk -- Ulrich Kiermayr Zentraler Informatikdienst der Universitaet Wien Network/Security Universitaetsstrasse 7, 1010 Wien, Austria eMail: ulrich.kiermayr@univie.ac.at Tel: (+43 1) 4277 / 14104 Fax: (+43 1) 4277 / 9140
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Denis Walker
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Ulrich Kiermayr