Re: [db-wg] [anti-abuse-wg] Proposal 2022-01
Yes Carlos you are absolutely right. There is no suggestion whatsoever that any membership will be revoked or any resources de-registered if any verification fails. Cheers denis Proposal author On Thu, 23 Jun 2022, 11:48 Carlos Friaças via anti-abuse-wg, < anti-abuse-wg@ripe.net> wrote:
Hi, please see inline.
On Thu, 23 Jun 2022, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
Just curious... How many of you folks have actually read sections 4.0, 5.0, and 6.0 of this pending proposal from the Database Working Group?
Read it just now. :-)
https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2022-01
I suspect that many of you are going to want to read those sections before you have your memberships revoked for non-compliance.
I can't read any details about membership revokation. Also i don't see it as implicit.
The three sections make perfect sense to me. In section 6.0, if i understood correctly this won't apply to legacy resources which are still out of any contractual relationship -- which also seems fine.
Regards, Carlos
Regards, rfg
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In message <CAKvLzuHjvzMjV8uT0nvv_ocL2h-uF49uNwTdAJDRvDpJabfqdA@mail.gmail.com> denis walker <ripedenis@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes Carlos you are absolutely right. There is no suggestion whatsoever that any membership will be revoked or any resources de-registered if any verification fails.
What then is the enforcement mechanism that underpins sections 4.0, 5.0, and 6.0 of your proposal then? Foul language? If recalcitrant members continue to put bogus garbage into their WHOIS records, then what happens? Will NCC step in, take control of the relevant WHOIS record(s) and insert correct information taken from the member's original bona fide documents that the member submitted when the member joined RIPE? You can't have it both ways. You can't make it a matter of formal policy that names, street addresses, phone numbers, and email addresses will henceforth have to be "verified" without explaining who is going to do this, when it is going to be done, what exactly qualifies as "verified", and what you believe will happen or should happen if it -isn't- done. Regards, rfg
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