To: s.willing@mops.net CC: anti-spam-wg@ripe.net From: RIPE Database Manager <ripe-dbm@ripe.net> Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2003 10:07:29 +0100 Subject: [anti-spam-wg@ripe.net] Re: NCC#2003034446 Abuse contact

Dear Sebastian,

Any changes to database schemas are decided upon in RIPE Database Working Group,

Yes, in principle, but as a matter of fact we prefer requests for object creations or modifications to come in from the "user base" (including a rough blueprint :-), i.e. the appropriate RIPE WG(s).

which is an open working group. It has a mailing list. You can subscribe to it and present your proposal there, for the review of other members of the WG. Its web page is:

http://www.ripe.net/ripe/wg/db/index.html

In this particular case I'd expect (at least) Anti-SPAM to discuss any deployment scenarios, before we go ahead and modifify objects. As a personal note - I tend to think the IRT object might be a better place to put such stuff. Because the IP-address management role(s), being more administartive, often do not have close links to abuse or incident roles within an ISP.

If you have any more questions, please don't hesitate to contact <ripe-dbm@ripe.net>.

Regards,

Engin Gunduz ____________________________ RIPE Database Administration.

Cheers, Wilfried (RIPE DB-WG Chair) _________________________________:_____________________________________ Wilfried Woeber : e-mail: Woeber@CC.UniVie.ac.at UniVie Computer Center - ACOnet : Tel: +43 1 4277 - 140 33 Universitaetsstrasse 7 : Fax: +43 1 4277 - 9 140 A-1010 Vienna, Austria, Europe : RIPE-DB: WW144, PGP keyID 0xF0ACB369 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~:~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ On Tue, 25 Mar 2003 09:53:28 +0100 (CET), S Willing wrote: * Hello! * * Some RIPE entries already include abuse information, but not in a uniform type. * * Arin has some extra abuse contact attributes: * OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE23-ARIN * OrgAbuseName: Abuse * OrgAbusePhone: +1-800-436-8489 * OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@genuity.com * * I'ld like to suggest a new RIPE-DB attribute: "abuse-mail". * * It should be required for every new allocation and optional for assignments. * Somewhere in the future, the whois server should automatically return the * most-specific "abuse-mail"-entry which exists. * For example: 10.1.0.0/16 allocation has an "abuse-mail"-entry, but * 10.1.2.0/25 has none. In this case, the entry from the allocation * is returned. * 10.1.3.128/26 has an own "abuse-mail"-entry which is returned if * someone queries this object. * * MfG / Regards, * S.Willing * * ************************************************************************ * M / W / S Sebastian Willing * http://www.mops.net Technical director * Telefon: 01803/684310578 e-Mail: s.willing@mops.net * Telefax: 01805/445169111 SW88-RIPE * ************************************************************************ * --------------------------------------------------------------------------------