on the question of 'right to maintainership'
Dear all, I am herewith soliciting opinions and 'current practise' on the question of maintainership of inetnums. We are in the position of having several allocations that are infested with 'historical' PI assignments, i.e. address assignments that have been assigned before the advent of CIDR. My LIR (de.xlink) currently refuses to enter maintainers different from ours to inetnums from our allocation, due to less than happy experiences with different (even also LIR) maintainers in the past (when the user of the 'historical' PI left its new provider and renumbered they lost all interest in the inetnum and it took quite some time to get the object referring to the then long returned address space deleted). Some people seem to think that they have a right to maintainership to objects that are assigned to them; I cannot find any such rule in the LIR procedures, and also it would be a good question where that would stop .. has anybody assigned a PA /29 a right to maintain their own object? and if yes, how are the hostmasters responsible for an allocation supposed to keep their charge in order? After assignment, anything but the size of the range would be fair game, very fun especially in cases where a tech-c decides that the inetnum range is their personal property even though it has not been assigned to them personally (and that is by no means a rare occurrence). Of course both the crook and the misled are the exception, not the rule, but we -do- have maintainers in the first place because of them, and a rule ought to be based on something better than 'you look kind of trustworthy'. What's your position on the problem as such? And if you give third parties maintainership of inetnums in your allocation(s), under what rules do you do so? To any kind of inetnum? To anyone asking who has a maintainer object? And if you do so, do you still assign from that allocation(s)? kind regards, Petra Zeidler -- [A] KPNQwest Germany * Emmy-Noether-Strasse 9 * D-76131 Karlsruhe [T] +49 721 9652 215 [F] +49 721 9652 171 [E] petra.zeidler@kpnqwest.com [I] www.kpnqwest.de
[personal opinion, since I saw no replies yet and I think this deserves one] A LIR is responsible for the registration of address space assignments from address space allocations it receives from the RIPE NCC. From this alone it follows that a LIR may reserve the right to make changes to these registrations. Of course the LIR should be responsive to requests for changes. This does not mean that it has to make any change requested. Changes should be goverened by a local policy. Daniel PS: Technically speaking you can have multiple maintainers on an object that all have equal rights. So if you trust someone you can let them make their own changes while keeping the possibility to make changes yourself. The right notify options will make sure you know abut changes. Beware: Technically speaking one of these maintainers can remove the other, albeit not without the other noticing if notifications are configured right.
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