I'm probably posting far too late about this, but: Much as I agree that the default removal of email addresses from the whois output is a good idea, the lack of a changed: field is very annoying. Its always good to know how out of date an object is - and one of the key parameters I've used to decide if the details in an object are likely to be correct (i.e. are they actively maintained). Any chance of having changed: with a date (not an email address) back in the default output? Regards James
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dear colleagues, James A. T. Rice wrote:
I'm probably posting far too late about this, but:
well, I had to sleep over the latest changes as well :-)
Much as I agree that the default removal of email addresses from the whois output is a good idea, the lack of a changed: field is very annoying.
Its always good to know how out of date an object is - and one of the key parameters I've used to decide if the details in an object are likely to be correct (i.e. are they actively maintained).
What I think is more annoying is to use a different query when updating/deleting objects in the DB. Nevertheless I understand the aim of the change and I definitly *do* support the effort to lead people to more meaningful abuse addresses, but it makes the LIR's daily business more difficult. And, beside that, I guess that when the -B switch becomes known to the public the previous behaviour will take place again and complaints will be send to all addresses again. Especially when some abuse mailboxes don't handle complaints in the desired way. But I'm afraid there's no way between the two options... Regards: Tobias - -- Tobias Cremer M.A. IP Admin Engineer Cable & Wireless Telecommunication Services GmbH Landsbergerstr. 155 80687 Muenchen Germany Tel +49 89 926 99 0 -- FAX +49 89 926 99 180 -- COMNET 7 49 9169 www.cw.com/de - -- Every message GnuPG signed -- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.5 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCgdGEhC6y11CNwvcRAkiRAKDASZzoQbX8i2PCdbWbbQMGAglCWgCg1oFE mZwxlV73MFDA5WZe0KwBkaU= =w6zR -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
On 11.05.2005 at 00:28, James A. T. Rice wrote:
Much as I agree that the default removal of email addresses from the whois output is a good idea, the lack of a changed: field is very annoying.
All you have to do is add a -B to the whois query, and you get the complete output again: whois -h whois.ripe.net -- -B -r 212.13.195/24
Any chance of having changed: with a date (not an email address) back in the default output?
I hope not. Cheers Hendrik -- Hendrik T. Voelker HTV5-RIPE MCI EMEA Registrar Team MCI Deutschland GmbH Sebrathweg 20 44149 Dortmund, GERMANY http://www.mci.com/de/ tel+49-231-972-1565 fax+49-231-972-1180
On Wed, 11 May 2005, Hendrik T Voelker wrote:
On 11.05.2005 at 00:28, James A. T. Rice wrote:
Any chance of having changed: with a date (not an email address) back in the default output?
I hope not.
Can you say why you hope not? I'm curious to the arguements why this would be a bad thing. Regards James
On 11 May 2005, at 00:28, James A. T. Rice wrote:
Any chance of having changed: with a date (not an email address) back in the default output?
On 13 May 2005, at 10:56, James A. T. Rice wrote:
I'm curious to the arguements why this would be a bad thing.
If you're suggesting that the default method for displaying the 'changed' attribute should be something like changed: (e-mail-not-revealed) 20030929 rather than changed: hostmaster@ripe.net 20030929 I don't see any reason to "hope not", although this was actually my first reaction too, just like Hendrik Voelker. So, FMPOV, no "bad thing". OTOH, since -B gives full detail, I'm wondering about the arguments in favour of committing resources to its implementation. Is it such an outstandingly "good thing"? /Niall
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