Deletion of German domain objects
Hi, Would be the nic-hdl's in the RIPE-DB which has only a reference to an german domain object mark as "NEVER_REFD" now? Kind regards, _____________________________ Stephan Mankopf +49 5241 80 88729 stephan.mankopf@mediaways.net
Hi Stephan, On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, mediaWays Hostmaster wrote:
Hi,
Would be the nic-hdl's in the RIPE-DB which has only a reference to an german domain object mark as "NEVER_REFD" now?
Yes, they will be marked as NEVER_REFD. We didn't change anything in the consistency project regarding to .de domain deletions. Even we did change something, since person objects will be created in RIPE whois db for a couple of months more, and since we won't have the new .de domains, our changes would be void. Regards, Engin Gunduz RIPE NCC Database Group
Kind regards, _____________________________ Stephan Mankopf +49 5241 80 88729 stephan.mankopf@mediaways.net
Would be the nic-hdl's in the RIPE-DB which has only a reference to an german domain object mark as "NEVER_REFD" now?
Yes, they will be marked as NEVER_REFD. We didn't change anything in the consistency project regarding to .de domain deletions. Even we did change something, since person objects will be created in RIPE whois db for a couple of months more, and since we won't have the new .de domains, our changes would be void.
I'm sorry, but I have a hard time comprehending the above. I have one brief question which may serve to clarify this issue: Is there a good reason to keep person objects in the RIPE database when they are no longer referenced by any other object in the database? I would have thought that the answer to that would be a resounding "no", so I am a little more than puzzled by the above conversation. - Håvard
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000 Havard.Eidnes@runit.sintef.no wrote:
Would be the nic-hdl's in the RIPE-DB which has only a reference to an german domain object mark as "NEVER_REFD" now?
Yes, they will be marked as NEVER_REFD. We didn't change anything in the consistency project regarding to .de domain deletions. Even we did change something, since person objects will be created in RIPE whois db for a couple of months more, and since we won't have the new .de domains, our changes would be void.
I'm sorry, but I have a hard time comprehending the above.
I have one brief question which may serve to clarify this issue: Is there a good reason to keep person objects in the RIPE database when they are no longer referenced by any other object in the database? I would have thought that the answer to that would be a resounding "no", so I am a little more than puzzled by the above conversation.
Hi Havard, Since DENIC do not have a person/role database yet, we have migrated only domain objects for now. After the implementation of DENIC's person/role database, which DENIC expect to take a couple of months from now on, we will also migrate the related person/role objects to DENIC's db. Until then, we will continue to keep .de domain related person/role objects in RIPE whois database. They will also continue to create new person/role objects in our db. This may sound strange, but it is the optimal solution we could find, thinking that more than 3 million objects are involved in the migration process. We weren't able to do this in a single shut. I hope it is clear now. Best regards, Engin Gunduz RIPE NCC Database Group
- H�vard
Hi, Engin Gunduz wrote To mediaWays Hostmaster:
On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, mediaWays Hostmaster wrote:
Would be the nic-hdl's in the RIPE-DB which has only a reference to an german domain object mark as "NEVER_REFD" now?
Yes, they will be marked as NEVER_REFD. We didn't change anything in the consistency project regarding to .de domain deletions. Even we did change something, since person objects will be created in RIPE whois db for a couple of months more, and since we won't have the new .de domains, our changes would be void.
Just to be sure and because we've discused it over here heavily: RIPE will not delete any person object in the RIPE database that is marked as NEVER_REFD but protected by any kind of maintainer, right? best regards -Marcus -- Marcus Rist email: marcus@netplace.de netplace Telematic GmbH fon: +49 89 551805-23 http://www.netplace.de/ fax: +49 89 551805-24
On Thu, 29 Jun 2000, Marcus Rist wrote:
Hi,
Engin Gunduz wrote To mediaWays Hostmaster:
On Wed, 28 Jun 2000, mediaWays Hostmaster wrote:
Would be the nic-hdl's in the RIPE-DB which has only a reference to an german domain object mark as "NEVER_REFD" now?
Yes, they will be marked as NEVER_REFD. We didn't change anything in the consistency project regarding to .de domain deletions. Even we did change something, since person objects will be created in RIPE whois db for a couple of months more, and since we won't have the new .de domains, our changes would be void.
Just to be sure and because we've discused it over here heavily:
RIPE will not delete any person object in the RIPE database that is marked as NEVER_REFD but protected by any kind of maintainer, right?
Dear Marcus, According to the current policy, RIPE NCC cannot delete anything from the RIPE database without the consent of data owners. Regards, Engin Gunduz RIPE NCC Database Group
best regards -Marcus
-- Marcus Rist email: marcus@netplace.de netplace Telematic GmbH fon: +49 89 551805-23 http://www.netplace.de/ fax: +49 89 551805-24
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Engin Gunduz -
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mediaWays Hostmaster