Hi Hans, I can tell you that I've been harassed in this RIR and another RIR meetings, both by email and in person, just because I'm contributing. Just because my views in my policy proposal are different than the view of other people. People yelled me in the mic, insulted me by email, but the most terrible thing was trying to scare me with "you will return home in a box" if you keep going this path. Of course, I'm not scared at all, but I'm sure some people could feel scared, not come to meetings and even more, stop contributing in the lists. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet El 17/10/19 16:09, "ripe-list en nombre de Hank Nussbacher" <ripe-list-bounces@ripe.net en nombre de hank@efes.iucc.ac.il> escribió: On 17/10/2019 17:00, Leslie wrote: Indeed. I am clueless since I haven't seen a single incident message among the various mailing lists. I would expect that RIPE should name and shame those harassing people at meetings. I am truly speechless that this goes on in 2019. -Hank > Perhaps you are not the one being harassed and the folks who are > haven't told you about their experiences. > > Leslie > > On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 6:57 AM Hank Nussbacher <hank@efes.iucc.ac.il> wrote: >> On 17/10/2019 16:24, Job Snijders wrote: >>> Dear all, >>> >>> I've been observing various efforts towards constructing a safe and >>> inclusive environment both at RIPE meetings and our online platforms. >> I have not been to as many meetings as you but I have never seen any >> incident, even in the slightest, where the people attending were acting >> inappropriately in any sort of way. I consider RIPE meetings >> extremely safe and inclusive, so just paint me clueless as to what the >> issue is. >> >> Regards, >> Hank >> >> >>> I appreciate these efforts, however, I have some concerns with the >>> process and our ability to execute. >>> >>> A careful observer may see that the next generation of Internet >>> engineers is not quite like the current establishment. I believe this >>> diversity needs to be acknowledged in our policies. We owe it to them >>> to create an environment that contributes to their comfort and well >>> being. >>> >>> I recorded some thoughts on my way to RIPE - https://youtu.be/6_dLgcfv8kU >>> >>> Kind regards, >>> >>> Job >>> >> ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this communication and delete it.