On Wed, Oct 23, 2019 at 6:45 AM Thomas Schäfer <thomas@cis.uni-muenchen.de> wrote:
Am 23.10.19 um 15:26 schrieb Fernando Gont:
> It's worse than that: Most IPv4 CPE devices have UPnP support, but IPv6
> ones often lack the hooks to punch holes into the fw. SO at the end of
> the day you get better end-to-end connectivity with IPv4 than with IPv6


That assumes you have at least a public ipv4 address at your home router.

A a lot of people (in Germany) cannot fulfill this requirement. Some of
them hope/pray for pcp instead of UPnP. (good luck)
On the other hand, despite most home routers have a simple firewall -
people may change their routers. And cheap router may get an software
update, as they got it in former time for dyndns and port forwarding...

The only hopes I have for innovation along the edge breaks down into people retaining control over the software in their routers, the elimination of binary blobs, working on improving wifi, and making ipv6 better. I wish more ISPs realized that wifi was the
major thing keeping their market alive in light of cellphones everywhere, and despite working on openwrt as much as I can,
don't see many ISPs making any investment into better CPE, just riding their rental fees. Binary blobs - well, as examples, I'd
like an open source ONT so I could wedge the sch_cake algorithm into one - or just one dsl driver - or - gasp! a cable modem. Coping with the binary blob in just one wifi chip just took years to sort out. ( https://www.spinics.net/lists/netdev/msg615203.html

As for public IPs,  only the gaming market, really, is left with sufficient clout to do anything about it, and even there e2e is dying due to people mounting ddos attacks against visible participants.

And nobody seems to know how 5G will implement IPv6.

Peering into my cloudy crystal ball, I see a whole generation not knowing what an end to end experience is like, the online gaming
experience becoming more like farmville, and routing ssh over https. 

The internet could have been so much more, and I despair.






--

There’s no place like ::1

Thomas Schäfer (Systemverwaltung)
Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität
Centrum für Informations- und Sprachverarbeitung
Oettingenstraße 67 Raum C109
80538 München ☎ +49/89/2180-9706  ℻ +49/89/2180-9701




--

Dave Täht
CTO, TekLibre, LLC
http://www.teklibre.com
Tel: 1-831-205-9740